For future potential, of course you'd go for Hardaker over Bowen. But in terms of current ability, it's Bowen every time for me.

Charnley over our wingers, no question. I'd take the rest of our backs over theirs though.

Probably Charnley over Briscoe and that's it. Even that I don't think Leeds come off a bad second best. The long term potential of Hardaker, Briscoe, Watkins, Moon & Hall is massive.

But you used to argue Michael Platt was a star.

Why do you think that?

I agree our backs are good although I have doubts over Hall due to his lack of pace but his strength near the line is second to none. Our half backs if we stick with Sinfield Burrow and McGuire are no longer good enough. Our front row apart from JP were very poor and I doubt he will get better next year. Hence why we need a good half back and at least 2 props who can run it in hard and off load. Saints seem to have done well with Masoe or whatever his name is and Amar. And as mentioned Wigan and Huddersfield have strengthened their squad whilst we continue to release players.

IMHO we can promote from within...isn't that what we have done more or less over the past 7 years ???

If Hardaker goes, Leeds are going to look pretty silly in shifting out both Watson and Sunley at the end of last year. They'll be left with absolutely no cover at full-back with even Under 20s experience.

to be fair whats happened couldn't be forseen. only last month we were discussing if BJB would leave and who would miss out

What do you know Tad? PM me if you can. Cheers

Nothing's happened Tad. He is looking for a new contract, along with a few others.

I disagree. Hall had a fantastic season last year. His try return was down but that was because Moon is not the type of centre that gives his winger quality ball. We saw yesterday (and last week) what Hall can do with decent service from Cudjoe, the same Cudjoe who played Moon off the park last year.

Charnley is a great winger but Hall is the best winger in this competition by some distance. Briscoe and Charnley are very good Charnley certainly had a better season.

Not that convinced you can describe Cudjoe's service to Hall as "excellent", particularly not the first try that he almost managed to naff up by trying to be greedy on his home ground.

Hall scored a hat trick. For all three he had little more than to fall over the line. All three passes came from Cudjoe.

Excellent or not (and I accept Cudjoe tried his best to butcher the first chance) it must've felt like playing outside Gene Miles after spending te season outside Moon.

I would agree that Hall has had a very good, if not excellent season despite his modest try return.He brings so much more to the table than most wingers with his ability to suck in extra defenders and carry the ball back and make good metres whilst finding his front and a quick play the ball.

Charnley has had a great return regards tries this year and im not trying to diminish his efforts in any way, he is a fantastic player too but most of his tries were on the back of the structured wigan plays and were laid on a plate like Hall's were at the weekend.

Bottom line is, imo Hall is the most complete winger in the World and i wouldn't swap him for any other.