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why does it matter if he is away or not in order that the club can announce whether he will still be at the club?
or are you being mischievous here mr frosties?

ps has he gone anywhere nice? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Ferdy "If he is staying I wouldn't expect any announcement.'"


Except his squad number obviously icon_wink.gif

RE - JAL - I am not being mischievous, personally, I havent heard anything regarding Smiths future since said that he is out of favor. I am just going by the rumours going round. I have a feeling that he will be still at Leeds next season.

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Quote: Frosties. "Except his squad number obviously
Now that SBW is not coming are there any rumours of other players who may be on Gary H's radar screen?

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Academy news, Loose Forward Jack Carvill has left Leeds Rhinos and joined Huddersfield Giants on a one year deal

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Any more news about when the 25 man squad will be announced?

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Quote: Frosties. "Academy news, Loose Forward Jack Carvill has left Leeds Rhinos and joined Huddersfield Giants on a one year deal'"



What a waste. Could have been a huge star for us.

I alluded to this throughout the season, as I exxpected he might not stay unless he got a sniff.

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Quote: Gotcha "What a waste. Could have been a huge star for us.

I alluded to this throughout the season, as I exxpected he might not stay unless he got a sniff.'"

One year deal doesnt really point to superstar.

I think we have two or three players coming through in the next one or two years who have the potential to be truly, top class in Hood, Singleton and Ward.

I think we have four or five players coming through in the next one or two years who have the potential to be Leeds Rhinos first team players.

that doesnt even address the 2nd tier players looking to make the step up like Watkins, Hardaker and Pitts

thats a pretty good return imo.

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I don't see why you'd want to get out of the deals with Webb and Leuluai if you wanted to go with youth. They are here for one year, and its up to the coach to work out how to rotate/best use younger players. I don't have a problem with that.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "One year deal doesnt really point to superstar.

I think we have two or three players coming through in the next one or two years who have the potential to be truly, top class in Hood, Singleton and Ward.

I think we have four or five players coming through in the next one or two years who have the potential to be Leeds Rhinos first team players.

that doesnt even address the 2nd tier players looking to make the step up like Watkins, Hardaker and Pitts

thats a pretty good return imo.'"



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Quote: tvoc "I know nothing of this player or any of the others below regular 1st grade but I do know Leeds (and all other clubs) have a pretty good idea where the players will end up.'"


I don't get the relevance of this tvoc in this case. Leeds haven't released the player, far from it. He has chosen to take up a full time contract elsewhere and take his chance.


Quote: tvoc "Can't be bothered arguing the toss but I will just say one name - Greg McNally. he did well at the Giants!'"


Again, don't under the relevance to this case. I already said he may not make it now going to the Giants. I was purely referring to how good he was, and what he could have achieved at Leeds.

It's the same story for me that is happening too often over last couple of years. Potential future stars are leaving this club because of the part time contracts and system for first team introduction.

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Quote: Gotcha "Leeds haven't released the player, far from it. He has chosen to take up a full time contract elsewhere and take his chance.
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Was he not free to do so?

As long as Leeds, Huddersfield and the player have been respectful and open regarding the offers being fielded I don't see the issue.

If Huddersfield made a more attractive offer and Leeds have not sought to match or better it then it appears (as often happens) the player has opted to move on - I trust it was amicable unless someone wants to suggest otherwise.

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Quote: Gotcha "I don't get the relevance of this tvoc in this case. Leeds haven't released the player, far from it. He has chosen to take up a full time contract elsewhere and take his chance.


Again, don't under the relevance to this case. I already said he may not make it now going to the Giants. I was purely referring to how good he was, and what he could have achieved at Leeds.

It's the same story for me that is happening too often over last couple of years. Potential future stars are leaving this club because of the part time contracts and system for first team introduction.'"


I think what people are saying is that teh Leeds club has done very well in regard of producing good players from the juniors, and getting them to international standard. there is a pretty recognised path there. Academy -> Loan -> First Team Fringe -> First Team regular.

You can say a player has potential, but the likelyhood is that if he had enough ability, then either Leeds would have retained him / given him a contract & tied him down, or that he would move onto another club and achieve his potential there. Sucessful as we have been in the past, I don't think we are the only club who can develop a young player. If it is true potential, then it should shine whereever he goes.

As there have been very few in recent years who have been on our books, but had top level success elsewhere, then I think we can accept the risk of losing out in this case

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