I am disappointed.

Is Kyle better than peacock at his peak? No.

Is Peacock at his peak? No.

Kyle is better than Moore, Kirke and Griffin, IMO. He's also better than Bailey in certain aspects of his game (work rate with the ball). He's also in his mid 20s.

IMO, he would have improved our 17 as part of a 4 prop rotation.

It's not Kyle holding back the development of Singleton. It's the continual selection of Kirke and the signing of average players like Griffin and Moore.

For various reasons Leeds have mis-handled the retention and development of young props in the SL era.

Luke Burgess. Garreth Carvell.

Young, developing props, in other words. And there was a lot more justification/extenuating circumstances for letting those two go than there was Amor. (I assume by "gone on to better things" you mean turned into international standard players who would walk into the current Leeds team, rather than won Grand Finals for their current clubs, otherwise the question would make Ian Kirke a better prop than James Graham).

Over the course of our three games against Wakefield he's already looked the best prop on the park behind Peacock, and he's ten years younger.

I think this sums it up. Decent player, easily good enough to make our squad, but at the end of the day a one-time world beating prop at the twilight of his career was still able outplay him.

My biggest worry isn't that we've lost Amor to Wakey, rather that our ambitions don't seem to extend to acquiring someone better.

Completely agree G and Gotcha for me Singleton should be in the 17 already at kirkes exspense and i'd take Amor to replace Kylie whilst also using JP "sparingley" with regular matches off.

Disappointed we haven't signed him. He would have been worth a place in our 17 IMO.
Good luck to him at Wakey.

The declining 34 year-old JP would have had a decent shot at outplaying the improving 24 year-old JP too. It was around then that he really kicked on.

I don't think you could put Singleton and Amor in that situation and expect to win games. Both are still very young (for props) and relatively inexperienced. You could play one, but not both - it would leave us too light up front, or our second row would be having to make up for it too much.

speak to wakey fans. my mate never misses and he says amor has been immense this season.

Meh, Amor is a decent SL player who has had a decent season. Wont ever be international class, wont ever be Man of Steel.

He may be better than a couple of our rotation props, he isn’t better than Leuluai or Peacock even now, nor Griffin imo. Possibly better than Bailey, probably better than Moore and Kirke, not as good a prospect as Singleton.

We have better, there are better out there, the difference between us winning silverware and not isn’t going to be the difference between Amor and Bailey, Moore or Kirke, he isn’t going to be a pack leader, he isn’t going to be a frontline prop. He is a decent SL level player, that’s why he has gone to Wakefield, and not Wire, Wigan, Saints and why we have let him go.

Good point, although for every prop that does make that jump (and a few have done so tbf) there are plenty that don't. If, after two seasons, Amor is snapped up by a top SL club or gets a gig in the NRL I'll accept unreservedly we were wrong to let him go. My gut feeling is that he won't though.

peacock will not make it to the back end of next season at this rate. how Leuluai got another year is a joke, he's struggling to do 10 minute stints these days

Kylie's got another year?

That news had passed me by and I have to say I'm astounded. And there was me being sympathetic about him missing what I thought might be his last game through suspension.

As a Wakefield fan I'm happy we got him.
Leeds and Wakefield are aiming for different things so I also understand why you think you can let him go.

However, I think the mistake is that those Peacock type players aren't out there any more. He may not have ended up your best but you already had him and he would have been one of the 4 in my opinion. So it's a mistake imho. He's not goingto come back and haunt you like if you'd let Burrow or Sinfield go but its an opportunity missed by you. Obviously if you have other young guns coming through you won't feel the pain in the end.
The fact that you signed Moore and Griffin who although good on their day will not be Jamie Peacock on their best day, shows how few top line props are out there. They were both great at Wakefield but are passed their best in my opinion.

I'd like Kirke as well if you are off loading. I know he's had some criticism but from what I've seen this season he looks a "decent SL prop" and we could do with him.

I hear you will get kirke as well

Not as good as Peacock 2 years ago
Not as good as Peacock, or Leluai, or Griffin, or Bailey now.

That's the cruncher. If Kyle was happy to be a squad player on a lower salary getting a game every now and then at Leeds, he'd have taken it.

I'm gonna guess he wouldn't have been happy with that.

JP is still, at nearly 35, one of the top forwards in SL, doing pretty much 70 minutes a game. Maybe next year he will drop down to doing shorter spells off the bench, but either way, he still has what it takes to boss around 90% of the forwards in super league.