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| Quote: Marshland "Lets get it right, the Keepmoat is not segregated for Rugby League games and the Doncaster supporters where already there before the Queens morons came out of the bar.
Funnily enough that section also included the Doncaster’s captains wife, two small children and father-in-law.
Must also add that Andy Wilson said he did not know the morons.'"
Whoever and whatever, the main reason for moving the game to the Keepmoat was security and H&S issues, it would appear that no regard for either of these two issues was made, Doncaster have some serious questions to answer for allowing the situation to progress unhindered as it did, hence the reason for the RFL not simply awarding the tie to the leading team at the abandonment as they could have done at 63 minutes.
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| Interesting to see McField cast in the role of apologist here
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| Quote: Charmless Nerk "Interesting to see McField cast in the role of apologist here'"
I have contacts, all is never as it seems oh small one
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "I have contacts, all is never as it seems oh small one
I've heard it said that you lack specs appeal, big man
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| Quote: Charmless Nerk "I've heard it said that you lack specs appeal, big man'"
I'll have you know I look like a secret agent in my special "driving glasses" with the react-o-light lenses.
The optician didn't explain that they don't react-o-light inside a car did he, bas'tad
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "I'll have you know I look like a secret agent in my special "driving glasses" with the react-o-light lenses.
The optician didn't explain that they don't react-o-light inside a car did he, bas'tad
UV sensitive rather than photo-sensitive are they?
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| Quote: El Diablo "UV sensitive rather than photo-sensitive are they?
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "The real question that has not yet been answered by Doncaster but which will undoubtably be asked by any RFL enquiry is why, when an all-seater ground is involved, when Queens were sent a batch of tickets to purchase, why were opposition fans allowed to take up positions in that section ?
Thats the question that was on the lips of all the Queens supporters after the troublemakers appeared in their section, a section that included many women and children and indeed the young baby of one of the Queens players, and one that conveniently seems to have been ignored by Donny at the moment.'" Rugby League doesn't do segregation remember? If indeed there were Donny trouble causers in the middle of that lot, they want their heads testing. If there were racist comments made, or any form of trouble coming from the Donny side of things, I'm not sure it warrants a riot to be honest, especially not the attacking of stewards and police.
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| Quote: Matt23 "Rugby League doesn't do segregation remember? If indeed there were Donny trouble causers in the middle of that lot, they want their heads testing. If there were racist comments made, or any form of trouble coming from the Donny side of things, I'm not sure it warrants a riot to be honest, especially not the attacking of stewards and police.'"
It does do security and H&S though, remember ?
Apart from at Doncaster aparently, where they request that the tie be switched to their ground for security and H&S reasons, and then don't provide any.
The fact that both teams are still in the draw suggests that the RFL are looking at the lack of any such provisions very seriously - whoever caused the trouble for whatever reason isn't even relevant anymore, the lack of any sort of stewarding and no police presence until someone thought to call them on their mobile will take some squirming out of by the home team, they could be in serious trouble.
On the other hand there is a big carpet at the RFL where lots of stuff gets swept under...
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| Quote: Jemmo "And the game the day after...who called who what there?'"
rlNever happened, apparently.rl If it is as Smithson says it is, I would hope that League Publications Ltd would offer the club an apology in next week's 'League Express'. I've e-mailed Martyn Sadler to ask that he does so.
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| Quote: Charmless Nerk "rlNever happened, apparently.rl If it is as Smithson says it is, I would hope that League Publications Ltd would offer the club an apology in next week's 'League Express'. I've e-mailed Martyn Sadler to ask that he does so.'"
In which case I apologise...and lesson learned not believe everything I read
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "It does do security and H&S though, remember ?
Apart from at Doncaster aparently, where they request that the tie be switched to their ground for security and H&S reasons, and then don't provide any.
The fact that both teams are still in the draw suggests that the RFL are looking at the lack of any such provisions very seriously - whoever caused the trouble for whatever reason isn't even relevant anymore, the lack of any sort of stewarding and no police presence until someone thought to call them on their mobile will take some squirming out of by the home team, they could be in serious trouble.
On the other hand there is a big carpet at the RFL where lots of stuff gets swept under...'" I agree with you about the lack of security, they must have had prior warning about Queens reputation, and if there was a problem with Moorends they should have known about that too. For what it's worth I'm actually in favour of some sort of segregation at most games, as it hopefully prevents incidents like this.
However you seem to be suggesting that the trouble was completely down to the lack of Doncaster security and possible aggro from some people associated with Doncaster. I've spoken to a few people at the game who have told me the Queens lot were being highly intimidating to all around them throughout the whole game, throwing things at the touch judge. Surely they had enough of a part in the brawl to get kicked out of the competition, and Doncaster may follow.
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| If and only if both teams are thrown out...
Who goes in to the next round or do gateshead then get a bye?
Should it be replayed it must be behind closed doors surely?
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| Quote: Matt23 "Surely they had enough of a part in the brawl to get kicked out of the competition, and Doncaster may follow.'"
To what extent do you charge an amateur team with being responsible for the conduct of their fans at an away fixture in a professionally run stadium? We've all seen fights which could have developed into more than minor scuffles were it not for a police/security presence at SL grounds, yet no-one screams for clubs kicking out of SL as a result.
I'd say Donny are in more danger for failing to provide adequate policing or stewarding as the "home" team.
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