Agree, it would have been interesting to see what Silverwoods call would have been. He obviously thought that there MAY have been a problem as asked the video ref to check possible obstruction.
I like the Aussie ruling as it does give a bit of direction to the video ref.

I notice on the bbc super league show both tony smith and wilken thought the McGuire try should have been allowed.

I thought Smith contradicted himself on that one.

wigan got all the 50/50 calls yet again from bentham just like at wembley in 2011

regarding the no-try,would this have been picked up had the game not been on tv?
i agree that players now know how to impede dummy runners and how to best reap the rewards but surely common sense must prevail and that the impeded player would have to have been capable of stopping the try,i don't believe that sundays incident was preventable by the impeded player alone,add to the fact how far out the incident occurred too as most obstructions happen much closer to the tryline

I agree.

The pertinent point for me is that if McGuire hadn't had the skill to dummy Tomkins and Tomkins had been a better FB (a la Hardaker ) by making the tackle; then any legitamate score off the next play would have been allowed and the 'obstruction' forgotten.

By that logic Powell's try just after half time would have been allowed and at 26-12 the game would probably have been over.

The only thing that is quite clear is that you and I have a different opinion on the direction it left Tomkins hands. More camera angles are needed and even then only if positioned precisely in line and people will still no doubt see things differently. Camera angles from behind the play (majority of TV shots as cameras tend to be positioned high above the centre line) tend to make passes look more forward than they are while cameras from behind the dead-ball line have the opposite effect.

Flat and backward passes are legal. Tomkins would have found it difficult to propel the ball forward while moving at speed and had he managed to do so Richards would have needed to be stood in front of the passer or sprouted wings in order to collect it, IMO.

I think he was short anyway

I would imagine Watkins try may not have been given without the replays also

Strange how all the other passes shown from the same camera angle in that attacking set look backwards, it's only the Tomkins to Richards that is an optical illusion.

What's Bentham got to do with it?

The score was 20-16, a four point difference.
Pick where that four points came from,
a) Bailey's push on Logan Tomkins, result a pen and two points.
b) JJ Buchanan's lifting Lauaki's leg and pushing him over, pen and 2 points.
c) Sinfield's poor kick from which Charnley scored a try, four points.
Eight points to Wigan there and all through Leeds' mistakes.
As far as the Mcguire touch down, McDermott agreed that it was the right decision under the rules. He just didn't like the way the rules were applied to his team, that's all.

I agree with this to some respect. Watching 'The Superleague Show' Tony Smith made a good point re Hullgate. He said he would expect the on pitch officials to pick up the offside without the need for the VR

Remember there are 5 games a week without the "so-called" advantage of the VR, and in this case the advantage has clearly failed. Would Thaler have given the try in a non-televised match?

During the Leeds replay I quite clearly heard Silverwood say "play on" as McGuire went behind his player. At the moment it seems the referees are using the video referee way too much for things that in the past would've been expected to be picked up by themselves. As far as Im concerned, the ref made his decision, play on, Leeds scored. There shouldn't have been any possible reason for him to go to the VR. The video ref should be used for try's like Dixons and Watkins superb corner efforts, not for something that happens 10min before on the halfway line which should've been picked up by a touch judge or referee anyway!

It's done, move on. By the letter of the law mcguire infringed, the ref, after hullgate, wanted to make absolutly sure so referred it and the video ref made the right (albeit annoying) call. Had it not been for the stupidity of some of our own players we'd have probably won regardless.

We need to focus on getting back to winning ways now as we are still well in contention for for 2nd place.