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Quote: ploinerrhino "We are not strong enough in the forwards to win at H.K.R in my opinion'"


I'm reasonably optimistic we'll finish the stronger based on how each of us played. Though that could be down to rovers easing off once they'd seen off fc's lamentable effort.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Add Fus (if ever fit), Holroyd, McDonnell to that side and maybe Gannon bench then it’s a stronger side IMO.'"



Yes it is but Fusita and Gannon hardly ever play and it is more than likely others will be out injured

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Lisone, Handley and Miller the pick of the team.
Personally I didn`t think Bentley was that bad and closes down the oppositions attack a lot.
Pack far too lightweight last night not helped by Donaldson playing prop which was a poor decision.
I`m still in the Mikey Lewis camp for a halfback but we went for Croft and Frawley which according to most people are far better choices which I`m sure they are just down to what I like to see from a halfback.
If Fusitua was playing with a bad knee last season why didn`t he have an op in the off season?
2 points just about deserved but thought Salford were more aggressive and their discipline let them down in the end.
Rohan a bit too arrogant with his interviews I felt.
Tomkins and McGuire excellent.

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Rohan clearly unable to get Leeds up for games. Constant slow starts and no intensity.

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Quote: christopher "Really? i thought KR were poor, no organisation and no kicking game, Hull FC were just utter dire.

Anyway a wins a win, I knew it would take a while to really click and remember Rowley knows croft and ackers games inside out so will have based the game plan around that.

I disagree we looked like the 2023 side, there was a lot of movement and running lines, they just didn’t quite click.

Anyway first ‘home’ round one win since 2018, and i feel a lot more positive than last years opening game.'"


Agree about FC looking very poor, they will miss Clifford a lot. I may have over praised HKR but thought they just shut down the game in 2nd half and just kept FC at arms length , won 5 tries to nil in an away derby,
Agree about Rowley as well.
We had a bit of movement where Croft kept turning inside to Miller but I was hoping we may have changed our style a bit.

Only one game and Croft was a marked man but he looked like Sezer last night, mainly watching others with the ball.

Think next week is quite a test. Hope they don’t find a goal kicker

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Quote: Sir Gregory ParsloeP "Agree about FC looking very poor, they will miss Clifford a lot. I may have over praised HKR but thought they just shut down the game in 2nd half and just kept FC at arms length , won 5 tries to nil in an away derby,
Agree about Rowley as well.
We had a bit of movement where Croft kept turning inside to Miller but I was hoping we may have changed our style a bit.

Only one game and Croft was a marked man but he looked like Sezer last night, mainly watching others with the ball.

Think next week is quite a test. Hope they don’t find a goal kicker'"


They haven’t got a goal kicker or a decent mangaing half

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Quote: rugbyleague88 "Rohan clearly unable to get Leeds up for games. Constant slow starts and no intensity.'"


We won, you wouldn’t know it reading this forum.

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I’ve seen us look very threatening in patches already in the two games. We need some flow and some of our bigger bodies in the pack, but I still think we’ll have a better season.

Really disappointed with the Mom sin bin. You can call it a shoulder charge maybe but the arm was raised and I just think it was a good shot.

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Quote: christopher "We won, you wouldn’t know it reading this forum.'"

I know. I left the ground thinking happy in the knowledge that I'd watched a competitive season opener where both sides showed promise. I now realise I saw another coaching catastrophe. Smith should do the decent thing and resign immediately before KR put 50 on us.

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Quote: christopher "We won, you wouldn’t know it reading this forum.'"



Some people say it as they see it and it may differ from you , yes we won but there are still major issues that have carried over from last year .

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Quote: ploinerrhino "Some people say it as they see it and it may differ from you , yes we won but there are still major issues that have carried over from last year .'"


Of course people will disagree and are entitled to their opinion as am I, I'm just saying it as I see it aswell.

I disagree about’major’ issues and I think we will see a totally different type of team than last year, I think we already are seeing that.

For starters we 100% lose that game last year IMO.

Every team will be rusty this time of the year and I personally think wins are more important than performance at the start of the year, you can improve performance but you can’t get the two points back.

It’s actually preferable to build into the year, look at Warrington and Wigan respectively last year, but we need to be winning when not playing at our best, and we did that last night, which we haven’t managed to do for a few years.

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I do think we’d have lost that game last year. That’s by far the biggest positive. Doesn’t by any means suggest I think things are hunky dory or we can rest on our laurels.

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Quote: Barrie’s Glass Eye "I do think we’d have lost that game last year. That’s by far the biggest positive. Doesn’t by any means suggest I think things are hunky dory or we can rest on our laurels.'"


We’re ot going to get a clear picture on how we are going for a month or two imo. But what we do need to do is win games like last night when we aren’t playing to our potential, that makes a massive difference come the end of the year, as I say look at Wigan last year, they didn’t really start to shine until the second half of the season but they had won games playing poorly

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interesting that Goudemand was seen as solid when he made 17M from 6 carries. He also made 26 tackles.

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Quote: ploinerrhino "We are not strong enough in the forwards to win at H.K.R in my opinion'"


If we play the compare game (assuming Holroyd and McDonnell and gannon are fit and parcell doesn’t get a ban and hkr have everybody fit). They look like this

8. Sue
9. Litten
10. King
11. Hadley
12. Batchelor
13. Minichella

14. Parcell
15. Luckley
16. Whitbread
17. Tanginoa

We are

8. Mik
9. Ackers
10. Holroyd
11. McDonnell
12. Martin
13. Smith

14. O’Connor
15. Lisone
16. Sangare
17. Gannon

That is 10 players from a 17 and honestly I would pick possibly 2 out of that 10 from HKR over what we have.

So I just don’t get the comment. I think what you are trying to say (I will try and elucidate) is that you don’t like Smith, you don’t like his attitude, the way he sets his team up, the level of aggression he instills.

I will also go out in a limb and suggest you think we need bigger bodies, line bending props, big impact, rush défense and you want to see big hits and hard agressive play.

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