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| Quote KaeruJim="KaeruJim"McShane got his hands in almost every tackle. Outcome was successful slowing PTB while opposition player tried to disentangle, and at least 2 “knock ons” won.
Whilever cheating gets rewarded players will do it to gain an advantage. All sides do it to some extent but I particularly noticed McShane last night.
I’ve also seen players drop the ball when in possession and tackled by 2+ players when they fee they’ll win a penalty.
If we can get rid of this crap it will significantly enhance the spectacle.'"  my gawd where do you think he learned his trade, now it comes back against you do you only see what happens in the ruck
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| Quote snowie="snowie":shock: my gawd where do you think he learned his trade, now it comes back against you do you only see what happens in the ruck'"
Wherever he "learned" it is irrelevant, the fact is that it's cheating and it spoils the game.
The whole ruck area is a mess. In an age where SL is under serious pressure, if seasoned fans are getting narked with it then how do you think new markets will take to it?
Ball security in the tackle has always been difficult to police in RL. The current rules aren't really working though.
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| It wasn’t hard to police when the attacker simply had responsibility to keep hold of the ball, and there was no two man tackle stripping nonsense.
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| Just allow stripping of the ball regardless of the numbers in the tackle and put the onus on the ball carrier.
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| Could you allow stripping on initial contact only?
There’s so much wrestle these days that it could get extremely messy otherwise.
Maybe once the referee calls the tackle held, the man in possession can’t be dispossessed and play is suspended until the PTB - i.e. no knock-on or stripping allowed. We need to remove the incentive for defenders to displace the ball or for the attacker to lose it on purpose when more then one player is in the tackle, just to win the penalty.
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| The whole stripping the ball out is getting annoying. I don’t think you can blame the refs as it’s largely 50/50 whether it’s a loose carry or an actual strip. Every tackler needs to wrap the ball up to stop the offload. 2 refs is only solution I can think of, and even then it’s still bound to be contentious.
WRT comments on Powell. I think a coach rarely has the full package. McDermott to me wasn’t much of a skills coach and our rugby under him was fairly poor, but he knew how to win a final, get a team motivated and manage big egos. Powell to me, coaches a good style of rugby, and manages to improve average players the most out of any coach in SL. Whether that’s enough to win finals remains to be seen.
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| I'd also be for a trial of limiting the players who can get involved in a tackle to 2.
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| 2 referees will help a lot imo
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| Quote Seth="Seth"I'd also be for a trial of limiting the players who can get involved in a tackle to 2.'"
Wouldn't like this. Always enjoy seeing gang tackles and players clattered into touch or in goal. Also, before you know it we'd have refs giving penalties as soon as a 3rd player laid a finger on the carrier, regardless of whether they were playing an effective part of the tackle.
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| For me is hard to police any way around. Now the players are fitter, two or three man tackles and a wrestle on the floor is the norm. Given that, if the onus was on the ball carrier to look after the ball, we'd have turn overs every set.
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| Like Kaeru Jims suggestion.
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| Quote Trebor1="Trebor1"2 referees will help a lot imo'"
Agree, but we would need to double the size of the first grade ref pool. Not sure that can be done in short order
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