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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. JAMIE PEACOCK:



I know we've seen it all before rumours of dressing room friction , but I wonder if these "Marquee " players salaries are pausing jealousy and backbiting.

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Lets get things right . We did not attempt to sign Flanders , it was his agent telling porkies to get him a better deal at Wigan

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Quote: ploinerrhino "Lets get things right . We did not attempt to sign Flanders , it was his agent telling porkies to get him a better deal at Wigan'"

Maybe but there were lots of reports at the time that Leeds' interest was genuine. He probably never seriously indicated he wanted to leave mind.

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anyone who thinks JJB or ablett are our saviours are in cloud cuckoo land. both are finished and were last season. giving them a new contract was a joke

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Quote: TOMCAT "Genuine question; How do we know that Furner wasn't / isn't content with Lowes?'"

We know when he signed he was told Lowes was staying on that came from Sinfield.
I genuinely think Sinfield & GH before him have got the squad/staff balance all wrong these last 2years.
The cull will need to be much bigger for 2020 irrespective of a couple of Marquee arrivals. For me Jjb Ablett Cuthbertson L.Briscoe L.Suttcliffe Parcell Myler Singleton Ferres & Donaldson can ALL go.

Note for J Cornetto - Golding has been available for the last 3 weeks he's not in the Clubs plans get the message.

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yep sick of telling everyone that

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Quote: tad rhino "anyone who thinks JJB or ablett are our saviours are in cloud cuckoo land. both are finished and were last season. giving them a new contract was a joke'"


I think Ablett will be a big improvement. I don’t think he will be our saviour.

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if he was fit yes. he's barely played for God knows how long and he looked poor then

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "We know when he signed he was told Lowes was staying on that came from Sinfield.
I genuinely think Sinfield & GH before him have got the squad/staff balance all wrong these last 2years.
The cull will need to be much bigger for 2020 irrespective of a couple of Marquee arrivals. For me Jjb Ablett Cuthbertson L.Briscoe L.Suttcliffe Parcell Myler Singleton Ferres & Donaldson can ALL go.

Note for J Cornetto - Golding has been available for the last 3 weeks he's not in the Clubs plans get the message.'"


My understanding is that Golding's first game back after injury was last week at Fev and where he played in yet another position of left centre. As for not being in the club's plans I am not privy to Furners thoughts on this but I do know Golding had two good pre season games and Furner chose to give him a special mention for his last performance.

My own guess is that Furner will now be looking for players with heart and defensive commitment and Golding fits the bill. In addition he offers a great attitude in the Leeds tradition and can play in fullback, hooker and wing. Given the awful performances from most of those players that you would say are currently in the clubs plans then I believe it would be very foolish indeed to ignore just the sort of player Furner needs out on the field just now.

Furner will have relied on Sinfield's judgement on the squad so far and until he has had the chance to form his own opinions. Sinfield, great player that he was has, so far has shown flaky judgement in his own team selections and recruitment evidenced by his support of Sutcliffe

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I agree re-Sinfields judgement but you only highlight
Sutcliffe (who id release tmw) yet he was behind giving his mates Jjb & Ablett new deals both blatantly past it but you see as some kind of improvement if fit.
Id also question the recruitment of L.Briscoe & Donaldson.
This squad has major problems & Golding wont solve any of them as admirable as his attitude & versatility is.

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Quote: Seth "I think all those things would be a revelation to them, you should email GH just in case they don’t get to read such wisdom.'"


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Quote: RHINO-MARK "I agree re-Sinfields judgement but you only highlight
Sutcliffe (who id release tmw) yet he was behind giving his mates Jjb & Ablett new deals both blatantly past it but you see as some kind of improvement if fit.
Id also question the recruitment of L.Briscoe & Donaldson.
This squad has major problems & Golding wont solve any of them as admirable as his attitude & versatility is.'"


Yippee....we agree on something. and yes JJB and Ablett are well past there best and like Golding would at give 100% effort.

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Golding is available to leave the club, if the right offer for him comes across. This was confirmed by Pete Smith on YEP

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That might be true, but it would be a mistake in my eyes if so.

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I'm not fussed about Golding, and at this stage concede that it is probably in everyone's interests for him to leave the club.

I agree he has the right attitude, and has been good for us defensively in the past (esp. 2017). Last season, however, his defence was not as good as some would make it out to be, and at times he seemed without much confidence.

There's maybe an argument for giving him a wing spot over Handley (or FB if Walker and Lolohea get injured), but this isn't going to fundamentally change much. Never mind hooker, it's a shame Golding's not an organising half-back, that's what we need (his pace and enthusiasm would be assets).

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