The Giants are the dullest team to watch in the league, I’m glad we don’t play that style of rugby.

You may be right, unfortunately most of the season so far so far we haven’t had much of any style of rugby.

We live or die on whether we can play quickly under Smith. I think there was a plan b for last night's conditions but woefully executed by O'Connor and his middles. In their defence I don't get the impression much coaching time will have gone into it. Which is fine in a way: we don't see too many monsoons. What we do see however is plenty of teams slowing play by other means. If we can create high a tempo, we're laughing. If not, it's wheldon road groundhog Day.

You’re saying Rohan is the Liz Truss of coaching?

Good summary.
We seem to start every game like a friendly.
Not one Ptb anywhere near their line in first half. And that abysmal try from kick off second half. Game lost. Total waste of time. Did not throw a punch. Any weak team can start playing when the game is lost.
Conditions were horrific but we did not kick high in second half.
Smith must carry some blame for the back three being not good enough because he signed them all. Anyone could have dropped the ball but those 3 did not look like they wanted to be there.
In last 10-15 minutes we had a few scrums and just walked there, no urgency to pack down and stop the clock. This team needs a leader who can rattle a few cages.

Frankly, not sure I’ll buy another away ticket this season. Last night cost me about £80 and just made me angry.

Yeah because Liz Truss did the equivalent of getting us to a GF didn’t she

It was a torrid game, a rubbish performance in horrendous weather - I bet it will be forgotten in a couple of months time.

It might even be forgotten in a weeks time.

McDonnell is that JJB/Delaney role player where he just quietly gets where it hurts and fills gaps in. Bentley is a good player but overrated IMO.

I prefer Tet in the back row, especially now Mik is back. We have Mik, Holroyd, Sangare, Lisone and Walters on rotation. Martin to centre and Tet to back row works better for me.

Tindall played well in pre-season, he’s quicker than Olpherts and although he has mistakes in him too he looks more like a rugby league player.

Maybe with Fus out it’s time to bring in Lumb or Edgell from the academy, and Tindall recalled?

Letting Edwards go and bringing in Olpherts on I guess more money doesn’t seem sensible.

At least Sangare, McDonnell and McDonnell look decent additions.

On another note I am sick of the prima donna behaviour of Newman, Austin, Bentley. Leeds have had better players than any of them who also had discipline. Arguing with refs constantly is just a sign of an idiot.

Olpherts needs a long spell at Bulls, preferably till the end of his deal.

Abysmal showing.

What’s up with Fusi and McDonald ?

Which is precisely what happened last night. And we were.

Mcdonald had a bit of a calf strain, should be ok for next week.

Fusi has knackered his ankle, I bet we don’t see him for a few months.