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The criticism of McLelland is unwarranted. He looked much more comfortable last night and will only get better by playing more games. Handley is game but he doesn't possess the ball skills to be a fullback, often stifling our attack.

Disappointing that Holroyd only got 18 minutes. Oledzki was very good when he was introduced.

Overall, there was plenty of guts and effort but very little skill and if you make 15 handling errors you may as well start a game 10 points behind.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Agree Marty we had a good structure ,decent cohesion & Gale was settling in nicely into his 7 role.
We have none of that currently , our lack of Quality is now exposed as is our poor recruitment/retention.
The biggest things for me though are our poor fitness poor basics & lack of Coaching expertise.
We make far too many unforced errors & stupid decisions all from senior Pros.
We are very predictable & as much as i rate Handley there's no way on this planet he's a FB.
His running is very good but he cant read when to chime in & pass on our attacks.
That for me is a Coaching issue i.e selections , Wigans younger Pack outlasted us & won the grind whilst their pace did the rest.
We hzve younger lads ready who will do no worse & imo would give us more positives especially with their been no relegation.
To be honest Christopher was right re-some would jump on the youngsters back but imo the majority would stick with them whilst gain experience ready to go next Year better prepared.'"


Who would you have played at full back yesterday Mark?

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Who would you have played at full back yesterday Mark?'"


I think it is fair to say, anybody but Handley.

Let's be fair here, he was perfectly fine at running the ball back, although where his dummy's to nobody come from into thinking anyone will fall for it, god only knows. But he is fine running the ball in.

However, he was utterly horrendous at chiming into the line and the ability to pass. He must have stopped at least a couple of tries. Also the knocking out for drop out for the first try conceeded, absolutely no need what so ever. Cost us. He simply can not read a game and know what is around him, we have seen this enough now.

Newman for me would have fitted fullback much better as a last resort. But with Walker in, we would have won that game, no doubt about it for me. We need a back up for him and we need to push that.

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Quote: Trebor1 "We’ve been struggling in that dept since Kylie and JP finished and it’s no coincidence we’ve seen a downturn during that period. The pack as you quite rightly alluding to are absolutely key'"


Will this be our reasoning in 2030, going back to the good old days of Kylie and JP?
Sinfield needs to get a recruitment policy sorted out. Starting with a coach who can coach.

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Quote: Gotcha "I think it is fair to say, anybody but Handley.

Let's be fair here, he was perfectly fine at running the ball back, although where his dummy's to nobody come from into thinking anyone will fall for it, god only knows. But he is fine running the ball in.

However, he was utterly horrendous at chiming into the line and the ability to pass. He must have stopped at least a couple of tries. Also the knocking out for drop out for the first try conceeded, absolutely no need what so ever. Cost us. He simply can not read a game and know what is around him, we have seen this enough now.

Newman for me would have fitted fullback much better as a last resort. But with Walker in, we would have won that game, no doubt about it for me. We need a back up for him and we need to push that.'"


Ok so we go with moving Newnan to 1. Whos your centre now then?

You can blame Handley for losing us the game but that is quite frankly ridiculous.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Ok so we go with moving Newnan to 1. Whos your centre now then?

You can blame Handley for losing us the game but that is quite frankly ridiculous.'"


You had Sutcliffe on the bench who can play centre. You also had Handley at fullback who can play centre. We also have Alex Sutcliffe who can play centre.

I don't think I did blame Handley for losing us the game. I said we would have won the game with a proper fullback, and personally I find it ridiculous that anyone who watched that could say differently.

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Quote: Gotcha "I am not denying we looked ok, we did. But it was against easy teams, but for the Warrington match, and confidence grew as a result. Had we played those two games I mentioned though, it would have been a different situation on the mentality side, which would have effected that confidence.'"


Gotcha you said we were ‘awful’ before lockdown?

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Quote: Gotcha "You had Sutcliffe on the bench who can play centre. You also had Handley at fullback who can play centre. We also have Alex Sutcliffe who can play centre.

I don't think I did blame Handley for losing us the game. I said we would have won the game with a proper fullback, and personally I find it ridiculous that anyone who watched that could say differently.'"


I agree 100% that with Walker or even Myler we win yesterday

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Quote: Gotcha "You had Sutcliffe on the bench who can play centre. You also had Handley at fullback who can play centre. We also have Alex Sutcliffe who can play centre.

I don't think I did blame Handley for losing us the game. I said we would have won the game with a proper fullback, and personally I find it ridiculous that anyone who watched that could say differently.'"

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Liam Sutcliffe? You moan abot him non stop. Cmon i cant believe youve put that.

Alex Sutcliffe wasnt available.

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Just to confirn following yesterdays game eople want Newman taking out of the centre to play 1 and replacing with Liam Sutcliffe with Brad Dwyer playing 6. Laugh my hairy bum off

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Quote: ant1 "Will this be our reasoning in 2030, going back to the good old days of Kylie and JP?
Sinfield needs to get a recruitment policy sorted out. Starting with a coach who can coach.'"


Agree

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Quote: Gotcha "The one who should have been here before Furner, the one who perfectly matches what our clubs says they are striving to achieve, that is Griffin.'"


We’ll probably end up with JJB icon_rolleyes.gif icon_lol.gif

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The answer doesn't lie with recycling our current players into different positions under the same coach. The answer is to invest in better quality players, and promote the juniors to give the club another Golden Generation, but under an appropriate coaching and conditioning team.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! ".
Liam Sutcliffe? You moan abot him non stop. Cmon i cant believe youve put that.

Alex Sutcliffe wasnt available.'"


Seriously? You honestly don't think we would have been better with Newman at fullback, and Sutcliffe at centre? you were talking about the fact we had Walker and Myler missing, and asked for an alternative. There it is, and IMO it is a better option, regardless of my opinion on Sutcliffe.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Just to confirn following yesterdays game eople want Newman taking out of the centre to play 1 and replacing with Liam Sutcliffe with Brad Dwyer playing 6. Laugh my hairy bum off'"


Again, no that was not said. You asked for an option with Walker and Myler out, and the fact we have not developed anybody else. That was an answer, and more laughable still is Handley at fullback. So you are seeing it now Marty, the club is a joke.

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