Alot of people on here wanted him to go before 2011

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I’m sure that Delaney and Ablett could have been described as leeds best forward once or twice too this year, doesn’t mean they can put in the required level over the season. Sod it, let’s go round again next year with the retirement home back row.

The numbers for a sheet were the ones you were quite happy to quote yourself.

Just a little bit me difficult for me to attend live. However Sinfield is our DOR and chief coach and was there and specifically mentioned JJB for his effort and rated him our best forward. So I am sorry but I value his opinion much much higher that yours which is usually so biased.

The stats show in almost all aspects of the game JJB was more effective than Crosby including in his work per minute.

Sinfield clearly rates Walker a better fullback than Goulding, does his opinion carry as much value on this subject?

Brett Ferres' stats accurately sum up his performance.

But all three put in regular big shifts in the first part of the season when they had to do the hard stuff without any props and all three then were injured.

So I think we need first and foremost two props and a goalkicker who can manage a game. I also think JJB, Ablett and Delaney are better than Thompson or Ferris. It should be about performance and not age

This does not mean I think we do not need to recruit a big fast running back rower because we do but Thompson is not the answer.

My point is that the stats fully back up Sinfield's comments regarding JJB in this match. However I am not so sure they back up his choice of Walker over Golding at full back or Sutcliffe at stand off. I rate Walker highly especially in attack but I believe he would be more effective at stand off or even centre. His break that led to Parcell's try was the sort of break a half back makes.

Whilst he'll be limited by cap etc, it will be very interesting to see how Furner rates a number of players. I can see a few being in for a shock, and rightly so. Whilst Furner no doubt remembers JJB, Ablett and Sinfield, I doubt very much he'll take any account of that when picking a team. He'll probably be amazed that anyone he played with back in 2004 is still going around.

That's a better way of saying what I meant.

Quote: christopher "Alot of people on here wanted him to go before 2011 We had a tough start to 2011 partly because our best forward and our 2010 player of the year were both out with knee reconstructs and even when they came back it took months for them to get properly fit. When they did we suddenly started to look pretty good. Didn't we win pretty much every game after the CC final defeat? Last third of the season was fantastic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctkuUzJMXKA

Quote: christopher "Alot of people on here wanted him to go before 2011 We had a tough start to 2011 partly because our best forward and our 2010 player of the year were both out with knee reconstructs and even when they came back it took months for them to get properly fit. When they did we suddenly started to look pretty good. Didn't we win pretty much every game after the CC final defeat? Last third of the season was fantastic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctkuUzJMXKA

Which is all very well, however, we have no way of knowing that if he had have gone in 2013 we would have won, 2 challenge cup titles, 2 SL titles and 1 League Leaders title.

We don't, and I actually don't think we would have won the lot, but I do think we would have won some. But more importantly we would/should have still been on the same path we were on, rather than taken backwards, and that is always what I have voiced.

Absolutely. This is all that matters, whatever we may argue on this message board.

That said I'm sure it won't be long before Furner's selection and rotation policy comes in for some criticism here