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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"GH has shown that contracts don't mean anything when he wants rid, he can hardly claim the high moral ground in these matters.'"
He doesn't need to claim the moral high ground, just the legal one.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"GH has shown that contracts don't mean anything when he wants rid, he can hardly claim the high moral ground in these matters.'"
Really?
Whose contract has GH breached?
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Really?
Whose contract has GH breached?'"
**cough, Karl Pratt, cough**
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| Quote The Magic Rat="The Magic Rat"I thought Wigan got shut of Hock because of his poor conduct?
On Hardaker, I agree with with G1, getting drunk and into fights while representing your country is not the way to behave if your asking for a contract upgrade.'"
IIRC Wigan took him back after his drugs ban, they let him go to Paramatta because the player wanted to try his skills in the NRL (sic).
The point about drinking/fighting is irrlevent - the contract upgrade is about market forces, what someone will pay for his services. If Wigan are offering double it would be immoral to hold him back. This is the way of the world in every job - GH needs to put up or let go.
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| Presumably these good old market forces override morality? Morally, Hardaker should accept his punishment, get his head down, be thankful Leeds haven't sacked him & fulfill the contract he signed. GH is reacting to market forces, which is why Hardaker still has a job at Leeds.
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| it's a long time to the start of the new season, some pie eating team may come in for him
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| Quote The Magic Rat="The Magic Rat" getting drunk and into fights while representing your country is not the way to behave if your asking for a contract upgrade.'"
Do we know that is the only thing he has done or are we speculating?
FWIW I agree that we need to up our game and start looking at recruiting and holding on to our prize assets.
Gone were the days when we could say players want to come to us to win things.
We will be lucky to make the top 4 next year with the current squad.
No matter how good our backs are we have nothing that I can see who will feed them and a front row bar JP that was past it`s sell by date last year.
Great we have swapped one average hooker for another.
But we are still a half back and at least 2 props short of a top side.
Hopefully we can convince Hardaker to change his ways and for him to stop listening to the likes of Hock and Chase!!
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| Quote chapylad="chapylad"Do we know that is the only thing he has done or are we speculating?
FWIW I agree that we need to up our game and start looking at recruiting and holding on to our prize assets.
Gone were the days when we could say players want to come to us to win things.
We will be lucky to make the top 4 next year with the current squad.
No matter how good our backs are we have nothing that I can see who will feed them and a front row bar JP that was past it`s sell by date last year.
Great we have swapped one average hooker for another.
But we are still a half back and at least 2 props short of a top side.
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My sentiments exactly.....
I believe if Hardaker goes we will then see a growing torrent of departure ( can you imagine the team without Watkins, Hall, Sutcliffe and Ward etc ) ugh !
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| Quote nantwichexile="nantwichexile"My sentiments exactly.....
I believe if Hardaker goes we will then see a growing torrent of departure ( can you imagine the team without Watkins, Hall, Sutcliffe and Ward etc ) ugh !'"
It`s a bit of a trek for me to travel over to Salford to watch them though 
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| Aren't problems like this what we have Hunslet for nowadays?
Any threat of being shipped off to there would definitely get me on the straight and narrow.
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| I see Nantwich is bored again! Still poor efforts, mind!
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"Presumably these good old market forces override morality? Morally, Hardaker should accept his punishment, get his head down, be thankful Leeds haven't sacked him & fulfill the contract he signed. GH is reacting to market forces, which is why Hardaker still has a job at Leeds.'"
Why should he - if Leeds sacked there would be a feeding frenzy for his signature. He would at a new club on much more money in time for pre-season. As I said before GH has no qualms about tearing up a contract when it doesn't suit him - ask Ryan Sheridan or Andy Hay. So morals have no part to play here - contracts are not worth the paper there written on in reality. GH was quite happy to sell Iestyn even though he had signed a new contract the year before - if a player wants to leave it is very difficult to stop them.
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