I`ll be honest here, I was giving Shabino some stick the other week with regards to the Oledski/Walmsey debate but I didn`t actually realise how much Oledzki had developed.

To be playing at that level, with that confidence in that position is almost unheard of at such a young age or its certainly something that I have rarely seen in a prop, the last one was probably Sam Burges. In my mind, a front rowers "peak" is a little later than the average throughout the other positions, I reckon 30 is around the age where you see the best of them so it certainly looks as though he has a good career ahead of him.

Do you guys think he has much improvement left in him?

mik still improving , after watching the 82 invincibles i often expect more of 20 yr olds but that team was freakish and ahead of it's time , mik was late to the game and was awesome last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1SRnchbgV4 average of gb 28 with crooks playing at 19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1SRnchbgV4 average of gb 28 with crooks playing at 19

When/if we get another equally good prop to partner him, it'll take some pressure off. We've massively over-used him over the past season and now this so far.

Scarily enough, Tom Holroyd could be even better than Mik if he develops. Two fantastic front-row prospects. Tom has the natural aggression which Mik is trying to develop I think. Also better hands. And he's still huge and mobile. Nowhere near as durable though... so far.

Ha ha. We all have opinions and it's fun to debate.
Think we all agree Mik Is fantastic and only going to get better.......
That's scarey for other teams.

Mik's been absolutely brilliant so far this season. Looks to have really stepped up

Yep, even impressed some on the pies board after last week. You know a non-wigan player has to be really going some to receive praise from that direction.

A sin bin instead of send off , same Ref

Going by tonight’s Hull v Wakey game Thaler only has his red card when the game is on BBC...

Consistency is the buzzword for this,and there is already a discrepancy.The tariff is 4 and a half matches for this type of offence.Over to you Mr Cullen and Co, try not to make us laugh.

Not sure it was as late but looked higher. Fwiw I thought yellow but agree about the consistency

Thought this would be about an Agar Out thread...

I wonder how long you get to appeal, I mean if there’s a similar tackle and the same ref gives a different decision....

He will get suspended so it should have been red