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Quote: El Diablo "Pessimist.



I'm not going, so we're definitely going to win.'"


I think they will win - law of averages alone suggests they can keep losing!!

This has been a great side that deserves to win at least one CC final - fingers crossed

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Kirke is seen as never having let the side down in the biggest games, and three coaches have picked him on the bench in those games for that reason.

His selection speaks a lot more to the lack of faith in potential replacements - and that in itself is an indictment of the quality of the other options.'"


Indeed! It does make you wonder why McDermott would state that 'bench places are up for grabs' giving hope to the likes of Singleton, Achurch, Ward etc when he had obviously already made up his mind.

The defence always seems to be that Kirke is "safe and dependable" and "does not make mistakes"....even if true that is an indictment in itself. Don't enthuse; don't engage; avoid the ball....and hey you will get a place at Wembley. But it's not true: Kirke has been far from 'safe and dependable' in his more recent matches if my memory serves me well. Warrington away immediately springs to mind....

Rhinoms is correct: McDermott has his favourites (Keinhorst at Wembley). He makes the selections....including when to make the subs ....and that is why the buck must always stop with the coach. He was responsible for the debacles of Wakefield, Bradford and London; he should take the criticism or plaudits here too.

Got to feel sorry for the likes of Singleton/Achurch/Ward etc though.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "I think they will win - law of averages alone suggests they can keep losing!!

This has been a great side that deserves to win at least one CC final - fingers crossed'"


I believe Leeds will win too...the players are more focused than ever on winning this one: witness the recent contrast in league form as opposed to the Warrington cup game. We also have Hardaker at FB so no more Joel Tomkins type tries icon_wink.gif

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People can slag Kirke off all they want but no one can deny Kirke doesn't make mistakes, especially in these massive games. That warrants selection. You need a very high completion rate with the basics done to a very high standard and that is what Kirke gives you. Yes Achurch can damage the line better, as can Singleton but I'd be much more comfortable with Kirke in there, especially when all the forwards were rested last week.

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Kirke doesn't make mistakes in big games, only if you ignore Wembley 2010.

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All the best for Saturday from a Leigh Centurions supporter have a great day.....

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Think Mac has played the early announcement of his 17 well. in other words 'forget London game, its all about this.'

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Would probably have gone with Achurch instead of Sutcliffe, but what do I know? Hopefully Sutcliffe has a blinder and wins it for us just to prove how little I know. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: thebloodbath " in other words 'forget London game, its all about this.''"


How do you know about what he said in his pre-Broncos team-talk?! icon_wink.gif

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Ref announced as Phil Bentham. What do we think?

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Quote: thebloodbath "Think Mac has played the early announcement of his 17 well. in other words 'forget London game, its all about this.''"


Mac will stick with the players in whom he has the most confidence. However he could still make a late change to the bench. Will Achurch and Walters make the 19 or will he include Ward?

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Mac will stick with the players in whom he has the most confidence. However he could still make a late change to the bench. Will Achurch and Walters make the 19 or will he include Ward?'"


Like I said before, I expected the Wire semi team to be selected again for the final. That seems to be happening.

Mac is showing his hand. Like Mac said himself, doubt Powell will be surprised with the team he has put out.

Can only see a change occurring if an injury is sustained. on injuries, how Huby is talking looks like he will take the field on Saturday. With that injury almost unthinkable that he will play!

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His elbow needs testing out at every opportunity if he plays.

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Quote: sgtwilko "His elbow needs testing out at every opportunity if he plays.'"


Well it won't be right and his elbow will be tested for every second he's on the pitch without any special treatment.

I know he is a big cog in their pack, and every team wants his leaders out there, but it's got 'car crash' written all over it.

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Quote: ls28_rhino "Ref announced as Phil Bentham. What do we think?'"


Was pleasantly surprised by him the other week. Thought he was ok around 4/5 years ago but has really gone downhill in the last 2 years. Glad he's not the VR because he often seems hell bent on disallowing tries when he does it.

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