It will be really interesting to see how the youngsters perform against top quality opposition. This will be a real test of their physical and mental toughness. We must not expect them to match the defence and metres of the likes of the missing JJB and Delaney so the points against stat should continue its recent progress. However on attack we can expect them to show their quality.

This is also a big game for the likes of Clarkson and Kirke who have the experience to step up to the plate and prove they are worthy to remain in the squad.

For us to win IMO we will have to use our attack as our best form of defence.

They would have to go some to make less meters per carry than JJB. Perhaps you meant work rate and carries.

No I meant metres as he has made the second most of any Leeds forward. Remember he has achieved this on top of being our top tackler

So you did mean carries then. And yes I know he is our top tackler, which is why I didn't pick you up on the defence statement.

If I had meant carries I would have stated carries. Our top 2 metre makers are also our top 2 for carries no suprises there. Players can make metres in different ways ... for fullbacks and wingers they get some easy metres while the forwards have to graft to get them. But we still need the forwards to make those hard metres each game.

How we are at the minute, way too soft down the middle. If we lose the ruck early doors it could be a long night.

Clarkson needs a big game.

We do. And also notible that those same two players, are also our top error makers and penalty conceeders. But of course that goes over your head I presume, even though you spoke about defence?

Two players increasing their carries by 3 per game would make the additional yardage that JJB does in a game. Your point said we would miss it, which is correct, but easily sorted by sharing workload. Whether that sorts defence also, I wouldn't give any guarantees on.

He was down as missing 7 tackles against Widnes. Not good enough, especially for someone who only really brings solid defence to the table. As you say, big game for him as he's currently been leapfrogged by Singleton and Moore in squad forward status when others are back fit.

Tonight is more about the youngsters gaining more experience than the result imo.
As a team we can go there with no pressure on us and give the young lads the freedom to express themselves.

What does go right over my head is the guff you keep spouting. For your information the following are our top error makers

So which 2 players will be doing this simple task then? and will they also be stepping up the number of tackles, kick chases and carries at the same time?

I would expect us to line up something like this:

1. Zak Hardaker
2. Ben Jones Bishop
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Joel Moon
5. Ryan Hall
6. Liam Sutcliffe
7. Rob Burrow
8. Richard Moore
9. Paul McShane
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Chris Clarkson
12. Carl Ablett
13. Brad Singleton

14. Mitch Achurch
15. Ian Kirke
16. Jimmy Keinhorst
17. Alex Foster

Gotcha, when you're caught out being wrong, it's best just to admit it.

Point it out, and I'll gladly admit it. I have no worries to do that. But what I said is clear enough and backed up.

I think we do have a chance of doing something if the 'supporting cast' of forwards can step up. We know what Peacock can do and its good to have Ablett back in the forwards and Singleton is performing well. Its the group of Clarkson/Kirke/Achurch/Moore that need to suitably contribute. I'm not sure if Keinhorst & Foster will get much time but hopefully add decent cameos too.