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Quote: AdmiralHanson "You miss the point ... I'm not suggesting he's dropped from the England team, but if the RFL don't come down and come down hard on him, then don't expect the rest of us to start parting with hard earned cash to 'support' him when he is picked.'"


So what would you "consider" to be a fair punishment?

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Quote: AdmiralHanson "

The crux of the issue is what is an appropriate punishment ?

But don't be surprised if a warning and a £250 'slap on the wrist' isn't deemed by some people as sufficent ....'"


Sounds reasonable to me actually.

Its probably not his fault that he is a daft, arrogant kid and he could do much worse than look to Iestyn Harris for inspiration, a player of similar prestigious skills who managed to alienate most clubs supporters, even the clubs he had played for icon_biggrin.gif but who to the best of my recollection never once let a crowd play mind games with him during a match.

Indeed if I were his coach I'd be rather alarmed that a player in my team was so badly affected by one incident in one game that several months later he is still refering to it in every press interview he does and is apparently still so wound up about it that he's risking a disrepute charge to respond to a crowd who probably had nothing to do with the original incident.

Its just a good job that there's no danger that the England team will play in Australia any time soon because we all know how that would end in tears before bedtime.

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How about Sine Die for the rest of the season / play offs and a heavy four figure fine might focus a few minds ?

Available for the internationals, but his team suffer for his actions.

He might think twice next time.

This is only part of the problem. Match Officials should have a purge on back chat (especially from non-Captains) and perhaps repeated incidents of normal back chat during any game should have the player concerned kicking their heels the following week ?

The antics of the player in question were far in excess of the normal back chat you see during games in the regular season. Referees have gone soft on dealing with it.

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Quote: AdmiralHanson "How about Sine Die for the rest of the season / play offs and a heavy four figure fine might focus a few minds ?

Available for the internationals, but his team suffer for his actions.

He might think twice next time.

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I'd be the one thinking twice about whether I wanted to watch the professional game again if that were the case.

As for abuse of match officials, the RFL need do nothing more but to ask those officials to take the necessary reaction to such abuse, a tool that has always been at their own disposal.

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What we are seeing here is the sad side of a kid who undoubtedly is a Super League superstar already. What he needs, from whoever does become Wigan head coach next year is a word in the ear to calm down and dont let the arrogance take over from the undoubted talent. As for boycotting England, or whatever, that's just daft.
At the end of the day, for all his little annoyances, he is currently the best talent in English RL in his position, and we definitely need him on form and in the side against the Aussies and Kiwis come the autumn.

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Quote: The Ginger Pearl "

What about Bailey headbutting our under20s winger? everyone seems to be avoiding that issue here.'"


Everyone is "avoiding the issue" because it never happened.

You are jumping onto a claim that a twitter message appeared sometime last night that has now mysteriously disappeared, if you spend the rest of your life frothing at the mouth over what some kid has posted on Twitter then your life is going to be a complete waste of time.

Go do something useful.

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Quote: MossdaleRhino "What we are seeing here is the sad side of a kid who undoubtedly is a Super League superstar already. What he needs, from whoever does become Wigan head coach next year is a word in the ear to calm down and dont let the arrogance take over from the undoubted talent. As for boycotting England, or whatever, that's just daft.
At the end of the day, for all his little annoyances, he is currently the best talent in English RL in his position, and we definitely need him on form and in the side against the Aussies and Kiwis come the autumn.'"



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Same point applies AdmiralHanson

But you're right. If you can't support ALL England players, you shouldn't go.

Don't need 'fans' like you there.

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Nah ...I prefer to still boo him icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: nantwichexile "Nah ...I prefer to still boo him cant wait for next seasons fixture list,my trip home will be timed to the Wigan home game.I think the whole ground will erupt everytime he gets a touch,very reminisant of when Cantona came back to E R.

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Who is this Tompkins fella? Seems to have a lot of heat on these here forums. Must say, I didn't see anyone with that name listed in the team sheets I got in my programme

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "Who is this Tompkins fella? Seems to have a lot of heat on these here forums. Must say, I didn't see anyone with that name listed in the team sheets I got in my programme'"

your late with that one its been pointed out about maguire/McGuire Tompkins/Tomkins.Do keep up

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Quote: Extreme Dave "I agree what Tompkins did was stupid and shows disrespect for the Leeds fans, but it's not like our own players have never done something equally stupid.

Sorry but boycott him from the England team, now that is stupid. He is a damn good player and deserves his position in the team. Let red hall handle him with some form of dicplinery as they see fit. A fine, maybe a one or two match suspension and official apology will be sufficient in my opinion.'"


Whoa whoa whoa there Dave mate!!!

The graphic you are using as an avatar is a picture I had commissioned a few years ago which cost me money and although it isn't copywritten I do own the intellectual property rights on it which cost me more money.

Not really appreciating you ripping it off.

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Quote: AdmiralHanson "Wembley is going to look very big and very empty without the thousands of Leeds fans that otherwise would be there .... '"


Anyone else notice the irony in this comment? icon_confused.gif

As for boycotting the 4 Nations, this just highlights the problem in our game and why players will always be tempted to leave RL to play on a bigger stage.

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Quote: AdmiralHanson "At least the incident is being 'invetigated'

Both these incidents of behaviour are not acceptable and should not be tolerated.

Interestingly, in Aussie Rules (a game noted for its biff once-upon-a-time), they used to double the length of bans for trouble during showpiece occasions, but don't expect anything as forward thinking from the RFL.

Brining me on to my main point, in a couple of weeks time, Leeds fans will be asked by the RFL to unite behind the odious Sam Tompkins and his slightly less odious brother Joel kick-a-man-on-the-ground Tompkins as if nothing has happend.

Well folks, if you support this idea, things could be different this year and perhaps force the RFL's hand in to taking some serious action against these sort of antics.

Do not dismiss 'fan power' and power of the pounds in Leeds fans pockets. After all, why do you think the Exiles game was played at Leeds and heavily pluged to Leeds fans in an attempt to get them to turn up ? I would estimate that at some internationals that Leeds fans make up some 20% - 25% of the fans attended.

Take those levels of fans away and it going to hit the RFL in somewhere where they will finally start to take notice ... Their back pockets. I would suggest that the Four Nations runs on margins where a 20% drop in projected revenue is going to make a serious difference.

So, what can you do ?

I know some of you will have got tickets for the England games already and that's fair enough .... But for those of you that haven't and were thinking of going, do you really want to pay your hard earned cash towards someone that shows that level of contempt towards you ?

Is Sam Tompkins worthy of representing this nation on the back of those sort of antics and abuse towards match officials ?

The ball is very much in the RFL's court and if they fail to deal with this matter, then our response is to not support the 'national' team.

You might also want to consider boycotting England shirts and merchandise (they don't look very good anyway) and / or withdrawing your email address and details from RFL mailing lists.

Wembley is going to look very big and very empty without the thousands of Leeds fans that otherwise would be there .... And let's see the RFL try and fill it with Wigan 'bandwaggoners' and Hunslet fans etc. They need us down there far more than we need them (you could always watch the national side getting hammered on Sky, if you're that interested)'"


yet another pre menstural post on this thread

the underlined section ,,, really ,, no other team or player does this

get a grip of yourself

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