Nah. Souths are a cut above any team in this country, and to be fair I think it's important to remember that they're a cut above most NRL teams too.

Fair point, i tend to agree.

Just feel Saints have been such a let down tonight after the other 2 game which were good to watch.

I feel we would have given them a good game but beaten in similar style to the Manly loss at Elland road in 2009(?)

I hope Saints fans realise now that beating them in Grand Finals is actually doing them a favour. It spares them this sort of humiliation.

Will any of them thank us for it?

Will they hell!!

I didn't think Saints would do much better than they did to be honest. If you look at their back line in particular every player in it is average and physically out of their depth.

The 2009 result I think is a good comparison. Would've been very tough to win but think we'd have been more respectable.

Souths looked very good, but luck does play a big part in games. The scoreline could have been hugely different with a bit of a shift in luck either way.

A record number a GF defeats
Biggest losing margin in a GF
The 2 biggest WCC defeats

The records just keep tumbling for the 'S'

Yep.Turner poop., Makinson overrated, Swift average and percivil needs to bulk up.Lomax is quality mind.

Saints need Walsh back asap

Hmmm, Lomax is alright, but nothing special, and he was very poor in tonights game.

I rate him but think Hardaker is better all round FB.would you take any of Wires, Wigan or Saints three quarter lines or half backs over ours on this weekends evidence?

I certainly wouldn't

Nah not one, maybe Sarginson for Moon but that's it.

Forgot about Sarginson.Good player, Would love to team him up with Hall on the 4 nations evidence

Yeah that's the only change I'd go for ATM.

Problem I have with this Saints side and knowing what level they're truely at is that they haven't been correctly tested. They limped towards the LLS thanks to Cas and Leeds messing up more than them and their playoff run was against two teams who look to have hit a brick wall in terms of fatigue in Cas and Catalans and then just managed to get past 12 over 78 mins.

We're still to find out just how good they truely are.

Wigan got beat by 20 last year, this year Saints 40. When we play the very best NRL teams we are found wanting.

We didn't do too badly against the great melbourne and Manly sides, a win and a reasonably close loss to both.

This Souths side are probably better than both of them though imo.Monster pack, smart halves and devastating three quarters.Glenn Stewart is a great replacement for Sam.