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Quote: YosemiteSam "We're a professional sports team. We cannot seriously be in a situation where a player says "I fancy a shot at playing there" and he gets to play there, in first team games, with comp points at stake.'"


I dont think he would have been given the chance if we had a fully fit squad, as was the case at the start of the season

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Quote: leedsbarmyarmy "I dont think he would have been given the chance if we had a fully fit squad, as was the case at the start of the season'"


I agree but also handley played quite a bit of preseason and trained there most of it. Craig Harrison went as far as to say he will be in the 1 shirt in the longer term.

If it was up to me one player I do think could make a good attacking FB is Newman given the opportunity.

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Do the players not speak frankly to each other?

If Handley has fancied himself at FB, surely during a game / training / getting changed / heading to their cars / having a coffee at some point, someone (I'd be looking at someone who seems fairly 'straight' and who says things as they are) would say something like "Ash, I get the FB thing and wanting to be more directly involved and creating things more than just finishing them... But, you are 27 now and have been getting selected at wing for years, where people are positive and complimentary about your efforts and skills over the years. Can you, hand on heart, say you have played better the last 6 weeks at FB as you were typically playing on the wing...?"

I'd be doing it, if I had a colleague on my team whose role change was meaning me and everyone else having to pick up extra slack to cover their inadequacies. Especially if the role they were doing before was one actually, they were decent and reliable in. They must be around each other 4-5 hours a day, 5 times a week, and no-one at any point has said such a thing to him..?

There is a clear lack of leadership in the group. I could only imagine someone like Donaldson or Cam Smith being the type to maybe say something like that. Myler might have been more likely in the past, but seems to have regressed and stepped back from doing that since his marriage ended.

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If in conversation with GH, RS says he wants to give Handley the 1 shirt next year, GH should be pulling the trigger. That would be the final evidence, the crowning turd in the waterpipe, that RS does not know how to set a team up to win in this country.

I don't see it happening.

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iiF Handley wants to play full back let him do it at another club. One of the poorest wingers in my time following the club since the mid- sixties ,never mind full back

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Quote: ArthurClues "Go back and listen again. He said that about himself as much as the players. Did you go yesterday? I did. He could have mentioned a couple of completely game changing errors from Martin, a couple from Austin - I could go on because the list is very long. None of this excuses his part in yesterday's result, which is substantial. Just because I don't relish kicking a man when he's down doesn't mean he's Wonderful Mr Smith. Maybe you need to take a look in the mirror.'"

Why do I need to look in the mirror im perfectly happy with my job and the work I produce and if I make mistakes I hold my hand up, unlike Smith nowhere in that interview does he take any responsibility, and you are like a retired headmaster who can't wait to pick people's opinion apart with your IM MORE SUPERIOR than you just like christopher. a046.gif

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Quote: RAPIDO "Why do I need to look in the mirror im perfectly happy with my job and the work I produce and if I make mistakes I hold my hand up, unlike Smith nowhere in that interview does he take any responsibility, and you are like a retired headmaster who can't wait to pick people's opinion apart with your IM MORE SUPERIOR than you just like christopher. Wish I was retired, but sadly I have a few more years to go. Look, this is a forum where people are free to debate and discuss differing points of views. If you find my opinion offensive, just block me. It's easily done. If not, be prepared to hear my what I think, which will frequently be different to what you think.

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Quote: gym bunny 100 "iiF Handley wants to play full back let him do it at another club. One of the poorest wingers in my time following the club since the mid- sixties ,never mind full back'"



Absolute bollo% Handley is one of the best wingers in super league , but a full back he is not

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Quote: Vic Mackie "I agree but also handley played quite a bit of preseason and trained there most of it. Craig Harrison went as far as to say he will be in the 1 shirt in the longer term.

If it was up to me one player I do think could make a good attacking FB is Newman given the opportunity.'"


Craig effin Harrison is a bloody agent not an rl coach

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Didn’t Joel Moon want to play stand off and Mac gave in and gave him the 6 jumper the following season? Look how that turned out

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he was a bang average 6 but had people like burrow, mcguire and parcell in key positions around him

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Quote: Jamie101 "Do the players not speak frankly to each other?

If Handley has fancied himself at FB, surely during a game / training / getting changed / heading to their cars / having a coffee at some point, someone (I'd be looking at someone who seems fairly 'straight' and who says things as they are) would say something like "Ash, I get the FB thing and wanting to be more directly involved and creating things more than just finishing them... But, you are 27 now and have been getting selected at wing for years, where people are positive and complimentary about your efforts and skills over the years. Can you, hand on heart, say you have played better the last 6 weeks at FB as you were typically playing on the wing...?"

I'd be doing it, if I had a colleague on my team whose role change was meaning me and everyone else having to pick up extra slack to cover their inadequacies. Especially if the role they were doing before was one actually, they were decent and reliable in. They must be around each other 4-5 hours a day, 5 times a week, and no-one at any point has said such a thing to him..?

There is a clear lack of leadership in the group. I could only imagine someone like Donaldson or Cam Smith being the type to maybe say something like that. Myler might have been more likely in the past, but seems to have regressed and stepped back from doing that since his marriage ended.'"



now this is an outside view looking in, but could anyone there actually say that with a straight face considering you've got 30 something ex halfback richie myler filling in at fb ? like agar filled in as temp coach?

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Myler is one of our better performers and the last in any firing line. Hes also much better as a FB where as its not suited Handley.

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he has been yes. think time is slowly catching up with him though

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