I absolutely still enjoy it, it being the whole going to the game on my own and switching off, and I can enjoy it even when we lose, I cannot enjoy performances like tonight, it was just dreadful.


There was nothing exciting nothing skilfull, i used to be a scrum half in my younger days so love watching halfbacks plying their trade, but we had nothing, I thought Sezer was dreadful two or three times he got caught on the last play, its pretty unacceptable IMO, i do think Austin is trying he at least looks like hes trying to gee the team up and organise them but its not good enough.

Id drop Sezer and play Leeming there

I don’t think Thompson or Donaldsn are good enough (that’s not their fault) but I actually thought they at least showed a bit of effort tonight, Oledski didn’t do much wrong either bit he can’t do it on his own

I really hope we somehow bring some skill and effort back soon. For you more than me even. I played scrum half at school too. I know where your coming from!

Agree with all of the above, a truly dreadful performance. There was only 1 team that wanted to win that game tonight and it wasn't us. I've been a supporter of Agar and think in general he has done a decent job but there is no defending that tonight.

As said - a diabolical performance against a team missing 5/6 first teamers , on a 4 day turn round.
Only one outcome - Agar , Long and Walker OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ive not had an alcoholic drink for nearly 2 and s half years, im bloody close tonight to opening that bottle of Brandy i have stashed in the house i can tell you!

Not to try and make it worse….. but I think it’s nearer 8-10 first teamers out.

Well beaten in every department. Hill props made mincemeat of our pack. Toothless out wide and halve backs flat footed. All came from the pack being beaten imo. Totally one dimensional with no spark. Look a poorly coached team and it’s unacceptable yet again.

Agar out.

Dreadful performance, No skill, no strike, no structure and worst of all, no effort..Shambolic.

Coaching is horrendous, once again reverting to a headless chicken and hoping for the best, we actually pay a wage to an attack coach, but revert to this u12's tactic every single time, its comical and depressing in equal measure.

Briscoe and Suttcliffe are appalling centres, both absolute donkeys, i cant believe im saying this, but Shabs was right, Briscoe speaks for himself, does absolutely nothing right at centre. Suttcliffe looks like he gets involved and can fool you into thinking he's doing alright, but his catch and pass are poor, he's got no subtlety and he's never, ever deep enough, all these forward passes he keeps throwing are because he's too flat..all the bloody time, and his basic skills just arnt good enough to compensate.

Our 4 new signings, less said about them the better.

After the Catalan game i was in the camp of our coaching team needing to get there act together, im past that now, something needs to be done. We'r supposedly the biggest club in the country yet from Scholorship to first team, we'v got one coach in our whole entire system who's regarded among the best at the level they coach at, again, shambolic.

Walker - Looks shot. No pace and positioning suspect

Briscoe - He. Is. Not. A. Centre. Dreadful.

Sutcliffe - Also. Not. A. Centre. Was off to Cas before COVID hit and all of a sudden u-turns. Stood having 'banter' with Connor at 31-0 down. WTF?

Handley. Yes he scores tries. That's what wingers SHOULD do. But again positioning is dreadful. Always flying out of the line and leaving huge gaps.

Fusitua - Getting there. Has had bad luck.

Austin - Clear he tries. Defensively not great. But he is at least a bit of X-factor.

Sezer  - Missing again. Much like the second half of last season with Hudds. Commitment?!

Oledzki - Tried hard but is singled out and 2-3 men tackled every time

Johnson - Youth on his side

Prior - Great servant but time has caught up on him

Martin - Not a great game. Missed both kicks.

Gannon - 18. Bags of potential.

Tetevano - Was he even playing?

Thompson - No words

Mellor - A real modern day Ian Kirke

I struggled with the other players as they made zero impact.

We have Jack Broadbent, a centre scoring tire for fun in the reserves - can even get a game.

We have no go forward and i think its not patently obvious Agar is finished. We also have zero pace. When people are runnign at your at pace, you panic and we don't do that the the opposition.

The ONLY good game (barring Warrington as we cant really quantify that due to cards) was the 1st half vs Wakey when Newman played. As soon as he went off, we dropped.

Changes to be made?

Wane for Agar?

Leilua in from Fev (lets have 2 PROPER centres FFS)

A prop from somewhere!

Last night we lost (nearly nilled) to a bang average Hull side, badly, at home. Things HAVE to change or supporters will stop going.

Good post that. Think I agree with all that apart from Walker, who could still be class in a better team….

Could we make a play for dupree from Widnes? Not sure on the rules or if he’d want to come at the moment though!

I think Agar will be given the Salford game, if we play anything like we did last night hell be gone, I don’t think he’ll get sacked he’ll walk himself.

Great post. Totally agree. Sutcliffe and Briscoe are woeful at centre, absolutely woeful. The pack were flat as a pancake. Hull totally blasted us to bits down the middle.

Change needed at head coach i'm afraid. Leeds remind me of Saints when Cunningham was in charge. They changed it and it worked fantastically as they brought in top coaches since. We need to get it right sharpish. Its not good enough for the quality of the club. Sponsors and Shareholders won't be impressed by yet again another abject season.

Agree with most of that apart from Walker.

I've said it many times, i really think Tetevano doesn't like playing at LF. He never plays well there. Why Agar persists with that i do not know.

Something needs to be done from the club to signal to the fans, shareholders and sponsors that performances like last night are not acceptable.

Are we going to see a Hetherington email this week?

I remember Paul Wellens giving a post match interview when Saints weren’t playing well a few years ago, he was visibly upset and angry and you could tell that he at least cared and that Saints playing that way was simply not acceptable. We seem to be missing that kind of thing from our group of players at the moment, I will say I think Handley is probably the closest we have to that, he’s been at the club a while and knows what’s expected but there’s only do much he can do from the wing.

I also think Leeming understands what’s required and will be a good club captain in time.