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Quote: doc-rhino "ever wonder if its like rebekah vardy that you get told things to see if you put it on here ------------------- pack is better than the backs if bentley gets fit and prior stays but need 2 more props and less light back rowers'"

If Prior stays we don't need two more props. Only light backrowers are Donaldson and O'connor. Gannon will put on some size in the off season as will Walters add Mellor Thompson Smith Bentley that's a pretty decent bunch.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Partly i do think that yeah but then i also think there is no way anyone from club reads the piffle we all put on here. But it is a balancing act as to what and how you say it. You want us all to get info but you want to also keep getting info in the future and not get caught. The Corey Johnson one may still come back on me.'"
tbh i'm not sure who the all are that are wanting the info and who the us are that are getting it , but the office staff are active on fb groups and one conditioners wife used to post on here , re props we've only tommy as a sub and shouldn't be using king donno or thompson as props need another sub and cover

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What’s king to be used as then?

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Quote: Seth "What’s king to be used as then?'"


Agreed. Mik, Prior, Holroyd and King are our out and out props with Tetevano able to do it from 13 as well. So we have 5 with Thompson cover as no. 6.

Some strong stuff from Agar post game where he implied he was disappointed in the efforts from some and some “really poor performers”.

Although we have some very promising young players not all will make it.

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King seems more of a back row anyway, he's similar to Thompson IMO

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Quote: Jack Burton "King seems more of a back row anyway, he's similar to Thompson IMO'"

I would have said he was a prop or nothing else. I think he's been decent value this year.

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Quote: Mark Laurie "Agreed. Mik, Prior, Holroyd and King are our out and out props with Tetevano able to do it from 13 as well. So we have 5 with Thompson cover as no. 6.

Some strong stuff from Agar post game where he implied he was disappointed in the efforts from some and some “really poor performers”.

Although we have some very promising young players not all will make it.'"

Ah but Prior has a great pass on him and a good engine, can slot in nicely at 13 for me. Tet isn't quite big enough for prop IMO. Thompson again is neither one nor the other.

Mik and Holroyd are outright props, which I'm delighted about with both being academy lads. Just what we needed. King I think is more agile prop than slightly cumbersome back rower, I'd keep him direct.

If we keep King and Prior, I can live with our pack for 2022. If either or both goes, we need that Taupau-type signing who can skittle the opposition a bit, and share the workload with Mik and Tommy who are still developing.

What I will say is that this Leeds pack at times this season has looked better than it has for a very long time indeed. Walters, Gannon, O'Connor, Bentley, Mik, Holroyd and even Smith are still of an age where you'd expect them to get better too.

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Quote: ArthurClues "I would have said he was a prop or nothing else. I think he's been decent value this year.'"
typical of our projects not big enuff for prop or fast enuff for br a mullally /yates not worthy of overseas place

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King is definitely not a back rower for reasons that are too many to go in to.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Ah but Prior has a great pass on him and a good engine, can slot in nicely at 13 for me. Tet isn't quite big enough for prop IMO. Thompson again is neither one nor the other.

Mik and Holroyd are outright props, which I'm delighted about with both being academy lads. Just what we needed. King I think is more agile prop than slightly cumbersome back rower, I'd keep him direct.

If we keep King and Prior, I can live with our pack for 2022. If either or both goes, we need that Taupau-type signing who can skittle the opposition a bit, and share the workload with Mik and Tommy who are still developing.

What I will say is that this Leeds pack at times this season has looked better than it has for a very long time indeed. Walters, Gannon, O'Connor, Bentley, Mik, Holroyd and even Smith are still of an age where you'd expect them to get better too.'"


Take your points but we can’t play prior and zane at 13. Think zane can do a decent job at prop at SL level as few teams have 4 good ones.

For mine Mik and prior with zane at 13 and Holroyd and king off the bench against the better, bigger teams.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Ah but Prior has a great pass on him and a good engine, can slot in nicely at 13 for me. Tet isn't quite big enough for prop IMO. Thompson again is neither one nor the other.

Mik and Holroyd are outright props, which I'm delighted about with both being academy lads. Just what we needed. King I think is more agile prop than slightly cumbersome back rower, I'd keep him direct.

If we keep King and Prior, I can live with our pack for 2022. If either or both goes, we need that Taupau-type signing who can skittle the opposition a bit, and share the workload with Mik and Tommy who are still developing.

What I will say is that this Leeds pack at times this season has looked better than it has for a very long time indeed. Walters, Gannon, O'Connor, Bentley, Mik, Holroyd and even Smith are still of an age where you'd expect them to get better too.'"
I agree with all other than Tetevano not being big enough for prop 6ft 1 and 17st 7lb is plenty big enough.He hits hard and is explosive in the tackle.

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So kings not a prop and now tetevano isn’t either d040.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Seth "So kings not a prop and now tetevano isn’t either

Agree

They are both props or middles (I don’t like that word to be honest)

Got me our issue is who we play at 13 and more what type of player we use at 13. I think Smith is and should be our 13. That way you have Mik, Tommy, Prior and Zane. I would personally use Zane and Tommy from the bench.

Second part of that is to have an 80 minute 9 which allows you another option on the bench.

8.Mik
9. leeming
10.Prior
11. Mellor
12.Bentley
13. C.Smith

14. Zane
15. Tommy
16. Gannon
17. Walters/King

That is big enough and strong enough for me. The only change I would make is against a big big team I would put Zane at 13 and Smith on the bench instead of Walters maybe keep king instead of Gannon. Depends how Gannon develops but I think he will put on serious size

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Quote: Lprhino "Agree

They are both props or middles (I don’t like that word to be honest)

Got me our issue is who we play at 13 and more what type of player we use at 13. I think Smith is and should be our 13. That way you have Mik, Tommy, Prior and Zane. I would personally use Zane and Tommy from the bench.

Second part of that is to have an 80 minute 9 which allows you another option on the bench.

8.Mik
9. leeming
10.Prior
11. Mellor
12.Bentley
13. C.Smith

14. Zane
15. Tommy
16. Gannon
17. Walters/King

That is big enough and strong enough for me. The only change I would make is against a big big team I would put Zane at 13 and Smith on the bench instead of Walters maybe keep king instead of Gannon. Depends how Gannon develops but I think he will put on serious size'"

I expect Gannon to turn into a prop in due course. Reminds me of Adrian Morley a bit and I think he'll go the same way.

Mik/Prior and Zane/Tom is a good combination, whichever two you choose to start with. I think part of the rationale playing Zane at 13 is honestly to extend his time on the field to get more value for money.

I agree with you I'd rather see a proper ball playing forward at 13 and Cam is your man. He's also a big lump so keeps our middle tight.

Not sure whether Bentley is a better player than Martin. In some ways probably. Martin is very good when he's in form though, he just had a dodgy period due to Covid I think and he looks through that.

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False economy for me playing Zane at 13, the team has been crying out for a player to add real impact, you water that down with the minutes at 13 but get game changing value with shorter stints. We don’t want him to just graft that’s not his main skill set.

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