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Quote: christopher "Precisely, those calling it a farce what is their alternative?

Bearing in mind cancelling the season isn’t a viable option'"


I call it a farce, not on tonights game, that happens in other seasons, but simply because the current season is worse than a farce.

I completely dissagree on your second point. Of course there is a viable option. Cancel the bloody season, it should have been done in June. That was the only viable option in reality. The fact that greedy chairmen thought they could get crowds in at some point, just showed how out of touch they are with the real world.

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Quote: Gotcha "

I completely dissagree on your second point. Of course there is a viable option. Cancel the bloody season, it should have been done in June. '"


Good luck with having a full league of teams being able to compete next year without having the Sky money from this year, cancelling simply wasn't a viable option, why don't you just take it for what it is, some rugby league being played when there's little much else going on and the teams fulfil their obligations to Sky so we can get paid.

Whatever damage you feel this season is having on the game, not getting money from sky this year would make that pale into significance.

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Quote: Toosmooth "Not worth Catalan coming over for this game with their special dispensation.

I meant lockdown like the initial one btw Sal. Businesses could've coped with a 1 month hit then Chris, but people don't care to see the big picture.

My impeccably behaved teacher wife is terrified.

Big up to Parkrun, who are allowed to reopen, but aren't doing so to protect people from themselves!'"


Businesses coped because of massive amounts of money injected to them by the government, that will not be available if we lock down again, I'd say you are failing to see the big picture, businesses have been decimated and a lot gone to the wall, another lockdown will be the nail in the coffin for those just hanging on. What happens when we reopen again and cases spike, another lockdown? rinse and repeat?

Can I just ask, what is your wife terrified about? My wife is on the 'frontline' and because of a lack of PPE is going to work in what can only be described as a Gas mask, she has had Covid (she wasn't ill) which I presume means I have had it, she isn't terrified, she's bloody sick of it granted. Yes this virus can be a killer but in the vast, vast majority of cases it just isn't.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Its not so much the code Seth as that is linked to your log in details ie email address and password i think. If you had somebodys log in details you would be able to log in. For the KR game i logged in on my phone and then thru my xbox so i could watch on the TV.

I might be totally wrong but i dont think you could log into OurLeague under your account and watch with my code for example.

Not allowing people to buy a code sums up RL in a nutshell.'"


Thanks, do season ticket holders of other clubs have a code to watch? Mother in law whos a saints member has offered hers.

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Quote: Toosmooth "Not worth Catalan coming over for this game with their special dispensation.

I meant lockdown like the initial one btw Sal. Businesses could've coped with a 1 month hit then Chris, but people don't care to see the big picture.

My impeccably behaved teacher wife is terrified.

Big up to Parkrun, who are allowed to reopen, but aren't doing so to protect people from themselves!'"


What makes you think businesses can cope with a further one month lockdown - hospitality is already struggling with 10 shut down. Who pays their rent, business rates? The last lockdown 80 of my employees lost their jobs - I haven't taken any pay since March and you have the audacity to suggest more of the same - you haven't got a clue. No doubt you work from home in the public sector - nice safe job. There will 4m unemployed in this country by December - that would increase significantly if we had another extended lockdown

Perhaps she needs to wear a Hasmat suit whilst teaching to protect herself given she is so vulnerable and terrified - personal responsibility.

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Toosmooth, what do you do for a living by the way?

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We have a condensed and crazy season here due to COVID. Nothing else could have been done.

I'm not sure how cancelling the season could have been viable in a practical sense. How would you square your liabilities (Leeds' new stadium debts, wages) with no income? Also what about the reputational damage with broadcasters when other sports have carried on? What about the loss of interest from the fan base? Loss of talent to the NRL potentially, or RU? Maybe further losses of youth players in particular, which God knows the club has worked hard to re-establish over the last 3-4 years.

I can agree that this season has descended into farce, but for completely understandable reasons and everyone's just doing their best in a terrible situation.

The main threat to the sport has and always will be you and I, the supporters. While the sport is well supported, everything flows from that: sponsorship, TV deals, media interest, better player pool... Collectively the fan base needs to look in the mirror and take some accountability.

That isn't to say all is rosy in the exectuives' garden because it's not: the sport lacks leadership in my view and has been hijacked by vested interests and small minded club rivalries. All sports are riddled with egos and politics of course, but RL cannot afford it.

This season is now a tactical proposition: you cannot play your first grade squad every fixture (although I think we have a run after the cup Semi until Hull). Clubs with deeper squads should have an advantage, and yes some fixtures will be thrown but clubs will make their own decisions on selections and take those chances.

As for living with this virus; probably easier to say that if you or your loved ones aren't at risk. There look also to be some long-term health effects from many who have contracted it and "recovered" - it's not straightforward at all. Having said that, it's a natural pathogen and there are times where you have to accept that living carries risk.

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Quote: Seth "Thanks, do season ticket holders of other clubs have a code to watch? Mother in law whos a saints member has offered hers.'"

that will let you watch sts matches

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Quote: doc-rhino "that will let you watch sts matches'"

Thanks. But not other clubs as well then?

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Quote: Gotcha "I call it a farce, not on tonights game, that happens in other seasons, but simply because the current season is worse than a farce.

I completely dissagree on your second point. Of course there is a viable option. Cancel the bloody season, it should have been done in June. That was the only viable option in reality. The fact that greedy chairmen thought they could get crowds in at some point, just showed how out of touch they are with the real world.'"


Come on man you honestly believe this sport could survive without the TV money coming in? There was no alternative but to try and fulfil the fixtures. The clubs are just trying to survive if you see that as a farce fine.

Seth as Doc says the Saints code will only allow you to watch Saints mstches live. You will need a Leeds code.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Come on man you honestly believe this sport could survive without the TV money coming in? There was no alternative but to try and fulfil the fixtures. The clubs are just trying to survive if you see that as a farce fine.

Seth as Doc says the Saints code will only allow you to watch Saints mstches live. You will need a Leeds code.'"



Thanks Marty. On the other point, i agree theres no other way than to continue, however challenging, for the points mentioned but also the damage done to the development of players not playing for what would have been around 10 months

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There is no other way but it doesn't give the sport increased credibility - in fact quite the opposite.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "There is no other way but it doesn't give the sport increased credibility - in fact quite the opposite.'"



Increased or decreased credibility with who?

I seems to be only the actual fans of the game that are constantly moaning about it and doing the sport down.

Unprecedented times, nothing about this season will be 100% perfect or fair for that matter but the sport is trying to get through it as best as it can.

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Quote: christopher "Increased or decreased credibility with who?

I seems to be only the actual fans of the game that are constantly moaning about it and doing the sport down.

Unprecedented times, nothing about this season will be 100% perfect or fair for that matter but the sport is trying to get through it as best as it can.'"


I don't disagree - but other sports at the elite level i.e. TV money reliant sports - I don't mean Champion 1&2 soccer - have had the same issues/challenges but don't seem to have had to change the format by which the season is decided? That is what I mean by credibility.

Did the Championship and PL finish their seasons and have play offs as they were intended - did snooker change the world championship - did cricket change the international 5 day, 50 over or 20 over competitions. Other than no crowds everything was as it was intended.

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Did those other sports restart at the same point as us? (As in just short of halfway through the season?)

Credibility hasn’t been lost within the wider sporting community most of them wont have a clue about the change in format (but that’s another discussion)

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