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| Quote: mattsrhinos1978 "Il take that response as a sign that your struggling to consructivly disagree with anything i said regarding maguire.
For me Powells a great coach now at super league level.'"
Ive say d maguire is a great coach, I personally just didn’t like the way that Wigan team played and the wrestling tactics is still having s negative effect on SL
Powells teams have lost any big game they have been in, once he gets that monkey off his back he would be classed as a great coach
And funnily enough McDermotts tactically out classed powell in 2 major finals.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "You can be more than certain that some of the same people who are criticising McDermott are ones who forced Tony Smith out of the club in 2007. There's nothing new under the sun. Perhaps it will take a three decade period with an empty trophy cabinet for them to stop being so spoiled by success.'"
Im sure you'll find GH sealed TS' exit when he put him forward for the England job before the season even started.
Also if you actually read the posts not one of them has anything to do with being spoiled by success many of us have already done the 3 decades of winning zip.
Every player & coach has a shelf life in every sport on the planet so why should we be different?
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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "
Every player & coach has a shelf life in every sport on the planet so why should we be different?'" I'm confused, are you saying he's reached the end of his "shelf life" or sticking with the usual argument that he's not any good?
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| Brian Mac won nothing at London, so has he become a great coach since then? You shouldn't judge a coach purely on winning big games. The resources he has available help a bit, so the coaches rated the tops tend to be at clubs with advantages.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "I'm confused, are you saying he's reached the end of his "shelf life" or sticking with the usual argument that he's not any good?'"
Im saying his time is up & wrt him being any good or not i think what he's done trophy wise is excellent but i stick by the opinion that he has no plan B & can't adapt when injuries bite.
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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "Im saying his time is up & wrt him being any good or not i think what he's done trophy wise is excellent but i stick by the opinion that he has no plan B & can't adapt when injuries bite.'"
He can't, or the team can't adapt because there is no structure under him, never has been it all lies behind having a team that plays what it sees and usually with a fullish team he has enough ability on the field to overcome the opposition but we have always looked a mess when a few key men have been missing.2016 was shocking throughout and if it wasn't for Segeyaro coming in and taking a grip we could have been up against it.this season, thank god we started ok and should avoid middle 8s because right now you don't see where the next win is coming from losing to Hudds at home in their current state is embarrassing.
Again, great man manager and motivator for the big games but i don't see any real coaching style or system he has brought to the club in his tenure and we just look lost at sea whenever a few injuries drop.
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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "
Every player & coach has a shelf life in every sport on the planet so why should we be different?'"
...and every armchair critic has a shelf life too!
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| Quote: christopher "Ive say d maguire is a great coach, I personally just didn’t like the way that Wigan team played and the wrestling tactics is still having s negative effect on SL
Powells teams have lost any big game they have been in, once he gets that monkey off his back he would be classed as a great coach
And funnily enough McDermotts tactically out classed powell in 2 major finals.'"
It wasn't McD though it was Sinfield and Mcguire. He's struggling now he's on his own.
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "...and every armchair critic has a shelf life too!
As i bleed blue and amber i will be an arm chair critic of the club till i die as im guessing every regular poster on here will too.
Even if we go 15/20 years without a trophy from here i doubt i will be on this board in 2038 yearning to go back to the Mcdermott era again simply due to the way the rugby has been played under him.
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| Quote: christopher "
Powells teams have lost any big game they have been in,
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Rubbish. They (Cas) have lost 2 finals to teams with far bigger budgets. They have won semi finals & play off games, or don't they count. The way he has repeatedly taken past-it players & unheard of players & moulded them into a regular top side makes him easily the best British coach of his generation. I don't think there is a single Cas fan who would swap him.
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| Quote: christopher "Do you still maintain the view that GH brought in McDermott who he (GH) knew was going to be rubbish to undermine Brian Maclennan?
And do you still think Jamie Peacock should have been pensioned off in 2011?'"
I think GH knew he had a group of players who had shown they could win trophies regardless of who was coaching them. GH has made some bad coaching appointments - Dean Lance, Daryl Powell - why was that because both would have been cheaper than appointing a serious coach. With a team that Leeds had it didn't need a top coach so McDermott was an obvious choice - his record at London was appalling hardly grounds for an appointment at a top club.
Peacock was passed his best when he left Bradford - that simply continued during his career at Leeds over time he contributed less. Would the team have been better served with say a Matt Scott quality prop - who knows?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "I think GH knew he had a group of players who had shown they could win trophies regardless of who was coaching them. GH has made some bad coaching appointments - Dean Lance, Daryl Powell - why was that because both would have been cheaper than appointing a serious coach. With a team that Leeds had it didn't need a top coach so McDermott was an obvious choice - his record at London was appalling hardly grounds for an appointment at a top club.
Peacock was passed his best when he left Bradford - that simply continued during his career at Leeds over time he contributed less. Would the team have been better served with say a Matt Scott quality prop - who knows?'"
You're missing the fact that McDermott had already been at Leeds in a coaching capacity which I'm sure influenced the decision to appoint him.
Peacock was nowhere near passed his best in 2006 (you know the year he was GB captain) thats a ridiculous statement. Would the team have been better served with Matt Scott, well Peacock won 6 SL titles, 2 CC titles and 2 WCC titles in his time at Leeds, but I'm sure Matt Scott would have made all the difference.
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| Quote: tigertot "Rubbish. They (Cas) have lost 2 finals to teams with far bigger budgets. They have won semi finals & play off games, or don't they count. The way he has repeatedly taken past-it players & unheard of players & moulded them into a regular top side makes him easily the best British coach of his generation. I don't think there is a single Cas fan who would swap him.'"
It's not rubbish, How many Finals has Powell won as a coach?
Best British coach of his generation, come off it.
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| Quote: christopher "It's not rubbish, How many Finals has Powell won as a coach?'"
So to be clear, only finals are big games? No others?
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