Can we put hall back on the wing? His best asset was nullified as he got no ball.

To play so badly, drop so much ball yet only lose by 11?
Surely there's some positives in that?
We won't play that bad again & that defence will help when it comes to the big games at the business end.
We've been here before....and won when it mattered.
Cas are on course to do a Warrington....win the LLS then bottle it when it really matters

He is still fitter than Singleton it takes him 3 plays to get back in the line!!

I don't want to over react, it's just one game, but that was a dire performance. Scrabbling for positives,I thought we defended well for significant periods. But we lacked ideas, ambition and a cutting edge in attack. It was hard to credit that we had had the easier preceding game and the extra couple of days to recover and prepare. Cas are the class team this season and deserve to pick up a trophy. My concern for the Rhinos is that with the cost of the ground development, the funding required to strengthen the squad may be hard to find. Mid table mediocrity beckons for a while I fear

Busy on here tonight, Leeds must've lost. The usual experts have been frustrated too often in not being able to tell us how the club should be run

Mystic Meg eat your heart out.

I don't know where you were sitting but you could do with a new pair of glasses. You obviously missed his 40 tackles in between tying his shoelaces. Leeds lost because of 20 handling errors none of them by JJB. We also made 39 missed tackles with Briscoe and Sutcliffe's woefull efforts resulting in two tries and 12 points.

This is a poor side - defend it all you want - as the above poster said they missed nearly 40 tackles and dropped the ball 20 times. Perhaps you enjoy watching "elite athletes" fail to do the basics to me that is a disgrace.

JJB and McGuire are senior players - one gives away penalties at such regular intervals you wonder why he isn't being coached to suggest their is a better way and the other is swearing at the ref - what example does that give to the younger players?

The biggest attendance of the year and Leeds play as badly as they have all year. Without Cas gifting Leeds two tries they didn't look like scoring all night.

Cas were the best side on the night and played the conditions and the ref much better than Leeds did. We made 20 handling errors, many early in the tackle count, while Cas made just 9. They also made fewer missed tackles (11) than Leeds (39) and they made more offloads (13) to our (5). This meant they made around 50% more carries and metres than Leeds and 126 fewer tackles.
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While penalties were shared equally Cas did get away with a lot of laying on in the tackle and quite blatant offside which led to some of our indiscipline and frustration.
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There was no lack of effort from Leeds but our terrible ball control cost us any chance of winning the game aided by two crucial individual missed tackles and a bad ref.

poor recruitment, poor coaching, poor players.
everyone from GH down shouldn't be exempt from criticism.
changes need to be made and it's time for big decisions and brave decisions to be made

You need to finally get to a match Juan, instead of relying on tv highlights, you would then get a bit of realism. I sit in the Carnegie stand, and the problems with JJB were clear for all, struggling to move sideways and flapping at players as he can not get his arms around, jumping out of the line leaving the gaps, a penalty liability. These are not things because he is a poor player, they are simply down to his enthusiasm and desire. He doesn't use his head, and he clearly is not fit, and as a result can't do what he thinks he can. That first half he was leaving gaps on the right and struggling to tackle all the time. Second half when he went off for a period the defence notably stepped up. How many penalties did he contribute second half?

You need to stop the biase, and open your eyes. And nobody is complaining about the tackles he does make, which are important, it's the ones not recorded that you can't see.