In peace hey I'm a Salford fan just want to reiterate what I posted on your forum at the beginning of the season (Wigan game I think) and that was, I've just watched Sezar and Austin and I've watched what I already knew about them, whilst nobody replied good or bad it's just one of them things in RL where average players sign for Leeds etc there world beaters, it's like no one seen them at Hudds/Wire before or Cade Cust (WHO) signs for Wigan and is installed as MoS favorite.

Tonight during the second half I looked at the Leeds team as I hadn't noticed if either of these blokes were playing tonight ?

I 100% agree regarding Agar, he’s a decent honest guy and lets face it he didn’t get brought in for this, he did a great job in sorting the team out, he should really have moved upstairs at the end of last year.

I also agree about Sinfield letting him leave was a ridiculous thing to do if he didn’t actually want to go.

I don’t know what the issues are and wouldn’t profess to know how to fix it but it seems to me the whole of the club needs to take a good look at itself and not just the playing and coachimg side. And they need to do something quick, I don’t think relegation will be an issue I di think the squad is good enough to pull out of that but if they don’t address it, crowds will continue to fall and we’ll end up with another 5 or more years of undoing the mess.

This isn’t usually what I would say but do we put more of the homegrown players in more often? Tindall, Broadbent even Sinfield, johnson? Or could thst do more harm than good?

Sounds like Corey Johnson may have a bad knee injury now from tonights game. Broadbent did okish tonight but must improve his D, but needs games. Sinfield is a long way off and is still 17 if he had a different name nobody would be calling for him but he is talented but nowhere near SL ready yet. Tindall is a strong running kid but couldnt tackle us but would offer more than Briscoe.

Difficult for any youngster coming into this team at the moment.

I'm not too fussed about this season any more. The imperative now has to be total reboot and if that means leaving things with agar in the short term to secure the right coaches in the long term, so be it.
Long and JJB must go. Not sure why the former is here, no coaching achievement of any note. Less than agar, and that's saying something. We're falling into exactly the same hole with JJB. Even the basics are missing defence wise. We're surely the least impactful side in the comp in terms of tackling?

All these same signs were there last year too and it's been left to rot.

Whilst I don’t think it’s all our coaches fault, which of our coaches have any experience in coaching a successful team?

Completely agree with all of the above and especially the comments around Sinfields departure. The one big impact Kev had was the culture and DNA of the club began to improve and we looked a more professional team. This has now regressed since his departure and we are in free fall and there is no easy fix in the middle of a season. As you have highlighted there is no quick fix. Agar alone going fixes nothing. The coaches underneath him look to be worse than him so would also need to go. As great as Hetherington has been for Leeds he looks like a man who has had his glory days and is not as in tune with the current realities of RL here or in the NRL. Oledski carries our forwards on his own especially in the hard yards down the middle. Bentley was good last night and probably wonders why he chose to leave Saints to come to Leeds! The overall lack of confidence is shocking. The halves are embarassing. Sezer has the ability but looks short on confidence and Austin has turned into a poor version of Joel Moon at 6 ( great centre terrible 6).
When you take it all together its a mess. Throwing in the kids en masse as some suggest would only ruin them. We need a root and branch review and a top class coach who brings in all their own people with them. No idea where you get that from mid season so it looks like a giant sticking plaster in the meantime which is probably preferable to making the wrong choice.

The job of Leeds Rhinos coach will be an attractive one, there will be plenty coaches interested.

You can have Radford?
Take him PLEASE…..

Nice man or not, im not sure how we can come to the conclusion that Agar has done anything other than a bad job, he and the regime have set us back years, we are talking about another overhaul after the time he's had!

I said several times last year how poor we were and was continually criticised for being too harsh. It's been coming.

I think that’s a little unfair we were a shambles when he came in (I understand we are the same now)

He however should have gone at the end of last year and that’s yhe clubs fault for not realising this

He steadied the ship and I think the club chose the cheap Option off keeping him rolling as he’s a yes man. Lack of ambition at a high level I fear. Sinny clearly saw this…….

His head coaching CV is a trail of disaster, why was it ever going to be any different for us.

I'm not hardcore - so my apologies for my lack of knowledge. But, in a sentence, with the most balanced squad we've had for several seasons......why are we effing awful? The Wigan game, okay good reasons for that were put forward. But Hull and Salford.....nah...something is wrong here. And what exactly is our plan on the sixth tackle apart from hand over possession?

The bad decisions go right back to 2015. The back-slapping was followed by bad decisions and some bad luck, but mostly the former. We now have a club staffed in senior roles by mates and former players rather than professionals with proven ability, a squad with obvious flaws that haven't been addressed, and no depth at all.

The rot really does run deep. Replacing Agar alone won't fix the issues we have. We desperately need the sort of clean out that we've been avoiding for years. Putting in another coach without addressing the other issues will leave us little better off apart from some wins for the first team.