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Quote: Simmo71 "Not sure why you draw that conclusion Arthur.
I don't rate Watson at all.
But I want to see progress.
And a team with an identity that is organised and structured.
Still some way to go on that front.
And by competing for 80 mins, I want us to be competitivie in both halves. Too many games where we are decent in one half and poor in the other.
But I do think we are better than last year - but it's a very low bar.'"

On the basis that you would seem to prefer a % based, mistake free, meat and potatoes down the middle gameplan, which is what Huddersfield do - badly. As spectator who regularly attends the games, that's the last thing I want to see. Smith's vision of the game, which was very well executed in the first 40mins against Saints, is far more appealing to me. I accept that because of it's ambition mistakes will inevitably occur. The crucial thing for Smith, is demonstrating that he can win games on a regular basis with this approach to coaching. Now that he largely has he players he wants I think it's fair to judge him over the first dozen games of the season. I'm really hoping he can pull it off.

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Quote: Shabino "How about both having a bit of both, like McGuire Burrow…! …lol…
Frawley is way too slow, poor kicker, and not really that good at organising. Feels harsh to say as I wanted it to work, but that’s how I saw it.
On holiday in Loch Lomond, hotel has sky so getting a fix…
Also mate and I will watch sky and attend few games this year.
Will still be bit of radio thrown into mix too though…
Mcguire and Burrow worked because Sinfield was in the side, who often played in the halves anyway.

You’re being Harsh on Frawley IMO

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Quote: ArthurClues "On the basis that you would seem to prefer a % based, mistake free, meat and potatoes down the middle gameplan, which is what Huddersfield do - badly. As spectator who regularly attends the games, that's the last thing I want to see. Smith's vision of the game, which was very well executed in the first 40mins against Saints, is far more appealing to me. I accept that because of it's ambition mistakes will inevitably occur. The crucial thing for Smith, is demonstrating that he can win games on a regular basis with this approach to coaching. Now that he largely has he players he wants I think it's fair to judge him over the first dozen games of the season. I'm really hoping he can pull it off.'"


Agreed, I go to the rugby to be entertained not bored to dearh with % style rugby, as it happens though we are actually completing sets percentage wise, even with our style.

I can start to see our identity now, and to be fair we have won all our games in different ways.

I don’t think we’ll be consistent enough to bothering top two league positions but I think we can best anybody on our day. We were like that at points during the golden generation years aswell

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Quote: christopher "Mcguire and Burrow worked because Sinfield was in the side, who often played in the halves anyway.

You’re being Harsh on Frawley IMO'"

Sinfield was LF for a long time. We now have Cam Smith who wants to be in the halves too. What could go wrong? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Shabino "Sinfield was LF for a long time. We now have Cam Smith who wants to be in the halves too. What could go wrong?
Sinfield was our main organiser and kicker, you’re comparing apples with oranges.

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Be very interesting to see how we approach next week. Lisone will add something and so should Mom if he’s fit - knock on effect of getting Martin back in the pack where he seems to play his best.

Our left edge didn’t look as sexy in attack without Mom partnering Handley.

Not sure who is fit or ill, Croft has looked a little off it for 2 weeks for me.

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Oledski, Ackers, Sangare
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Holroyd, Lisone, McDonnell, Goudemand

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Quote: ArthurClues "On the basis that you would seem to prefer a % based, mistake free, meat and potatoes down the middle gameplan, which is what Huddersfield do - badly. As spectator who regularly attends the games, that's the last thing I want to see. Smith's vision of the game, which was very well executed in the first 40mins against Saints, is far more appealing to me. I accept that because of it's ambition mistakes will inevitably occur. The crucial thing for Smith, is demonstrating that he can win games on a regular basis with this approach to coaching. Now that he largely has he players he wants I think it's fair to judge him over the first dozen games of the season. I'm really hoping he can pull it off.'"


"Meat and potatoes down the middle game plan" icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

Another wildly exaggerated conclusion from what I actually said.

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Quote: Simmo71 ""Meat and potatoes down the middle game plan" I think you have high standards mate, bit like me. Think the only way to enjoy Leeds is to lower those standards as they’ll never play like they used to. None of the teams are as good as their pomp days. Simple as that, almost different game now.
It is annoying when people on here make out we don’t know what we’re talking about. I still play football, golf, cricket and snooker into my 40’s, so have some appreciation of the sporting world! At ground level too…..

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Quote: Simmo71 ""Meat and potatoes down the middle game plan" And do you not think you are prone to the odd wild exaggeration? Last weeks half time post against Leigh, for example.

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Quote: ArthurClues "And do you not think you are prone to the odd wild exaggeration? Last weeks half time post against Leigh, for example.'"


Yep, I went way too early with that one.... icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

Pure frustration.

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Quote: Simmo71 "Yep, I went way too early with that one.... Well, in fairness it's never in short supply for Leeds fans. Sure we all hope it will change - and soon.

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Quote: ArthurClues "Well, in fairness it's never in short supply for Leeds fans. Sure we all hope it will change - and soon.'"

Ha yeah, we’ve been given enough cause for frustration last few years…..

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Quote: ArthurClues "Well, in fairness it's never in short supply for Leeds fans. Sure we all hope it will change - and soon.'"


Exactly mate!
And this year is a bit of a roller coaster already.
I guess that makes it more interesting ATEOTD.
Roll on next Friday....

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Quote: Shabino "Think the only way to enjoy Leeds is to lower those standards as they’ll never play like they used to. None of the teams are as good as their pomp days. Simple as that, almost different game now.'"


I think some fans expect perfect performances, sports more enjoyable when you accept players will miss tackles, drop the ball and make bad decisions. There’s a general negative attitude which looks for negative things. Just take a step back and enjoy the game.

This isn’t aimed at anyone in particular, just a general observation.

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Quote: Shabino "It is annoying when people on here make out we don’t know what we’re talking about'"
To be fair I don't think anyone suggested Simmo didn't know what he was talking about.

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