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Quote: tad rhino "it also gets tiresome when all you get is cheerleading from some.
works both ways'"


Im often critical of the side and how they are playing.

Difference is I dont want players and coaches sacking after every loss icon_wink.gif

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Quote: batleyrhino "We’re out of the cup at the first time of asking for the third year on the bounce and we’re 8th in the league with a 50/50 win/loss record.

How would you say it’s going at the moment?'"

In fairness I don't see any lack of effort. I do see a lack of pacey game breaking players. If Wigan didn't have French we win that game comfortably. We need to spend our money wisely this year and a try and come up with a couple of players like that.

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Quote: christopher "Im often critical of the side and how they are playing.

Difference is I dont want players and coaches sacking after every loss I certainly don’t want the coach or players sacked after poor performance. However at the end of season the club will have to make a decision regarding smith. Not progressing in the cup once again is woeful, brushing aside Newmans blunder we were second best, the score was flattering due to Wigans goal kicking failure. Personally if we don’t end up the top four I would consider that a failed season. On that basis smith should be sacked.

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Quote: ArthurClues "In fairness I don't see any lack of effort. I do see a lack of pacey game breaking players. If Wigan didn't have French we win that game comfortably. We need to spend our money wisely this year and a try and come up with a couple of players like that.'"

At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious Wigan had French and we had nobody or game plan to match him.

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Quote: ArthurClues "In fairness I don't see any lack of effort. I do see a lack of pacey game breaking players. If Wigan didn't have French we win that game comfortably. We need to spend our money wisely this year and a try and come up with a couple of players like that.'"

Yeah because the likes of Bevan French, who want to be in SL grow on tree’s! But let’s not just get lucky and find one, but several!!
We need to get real and work with what we have….
(Sorry for the sarcasm, but getting a bit tired of people already looking to replace half the squad)

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Quote: Shabino "Yeah because the likes of Bevan French, who want to be in SL grow on tree’s! But let’s not just get lucky and find one, but several!!
We need to get real and work with what we have….
(Sorry for the sarcasm, but getting a bit tired of people already looking to replace half the squad)'"

Not bothered about the sarcasm you have a right of opinion like anyone else on this board. I certainly don’t want to replace half of the squad. However at the season end the playing squad along with the coaches will have to be judged on results. We have no god given right to be a regular top four occupant ,but we are one of the biggest clubs in the league so mid table is not good enough. Nor is being dumped out of the challenge cup at the first opportunity.

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Quote: Backwoodsman "Not bothered about the sarcasm you have a right of opinion like anyone else on this board. I certainly don’t want to replace half of the squad. However at the season end the playing squad along with the coaches will have to be judged on results. We have no god given right to be a regular top four occupant ,but we are one of the biggest clubs in the league so mid table is not good enough. Nor is being dumped out of the challenge cup at the first opportunity.'"

Fair play. But we’re a mile off being top 4 at the minute. We took our eye off grassroots RL in the area and bought into tjis ridiculous marquee garbage, which has done nothing for the British game. And yes I did say it at the time. Fans were crying out for ‘marquee’ signings, now look at us. The marquee thing was a mad cap idea by someone who knew nothing about RL, and abandoned ship the minute things got too hard. Could take 10 years to bring through genuine stars again. It’s either be patient and accept where we’re at, or have s break (which is fine too!).

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Quote: Backwoodsman "At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious Wigan had French and we had nobody or game plan to match him.'"


Did French not play the week before?

We are never as bad as we think not are we ever as good.

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Quote: christopher "Did French not play the week before?

We are never as bad as we think not are we ever as good.'"

We are miles off where a club of Leeds resources and fanbase should be and have been for a long time. Think that’s why people are hacked off.

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Quote: Shabino "We are miles off where a club of Leeds resources and fanbase should be and have been for a long time. Think that’s why people are hacked off.'"


It’s sport we don’t have a right to be anywhere. We’re noy entitled to anything.

Anyway People on here were hacked off when we were winning titles galore. Perhaps the poster earlier is correct i should probably give this place a miss for a while after 24 years of being on SS the negativity is getting too much for me.

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Rohan seems to want this squad to organically develop it own ethos, leaders and style which is why I think at the moment we are so hit or miss.
The problem we have is the leader part just isn’t coming on at all, players looking for someone else to say something, do something or organise something and it’s so obviously our Achilles heel.

My twopenneth on Newman is the only way he’s going to learn is that he’s going to have to go through it and he ran the full gamut of that yesterday for all the good there was bad, hopefully there was a frank conversation after the game in house but the only thing we can do now is move on.

That’s not how I felt at the time admittedly but after I’ve calmed down and dust has settled that’s all we can do.

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Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "Rohan seems to want this squad to organically develop it own ethos, leaders and style which is why I think at the moment we are so hit or miss.
The problem we have is the leader part just isn’t coming on at all, players looking for someone else to say something, do something or organise something and it’s so obviously our Achilles heel.

My twopenneth on Newman is the only way he’s going to learn is that he’s going to have to go through it and he ran the full gamut of that yesterday for all the good there was bad, hopefully there was a frank conversation after the game in house but the only thing we can do now is move on.

That’s not how I felt at the time admittedly but after I’ve calmed down and dust has settled that’s all we can do.'"

Some young players have that naturally rugby brain, and just know when to make a pass. Others have to learn it, despite all the talent…..

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you need structure or some semblance of a plan. there's nothing there. it all seems to be just play what's in front of you

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Quote: chapylad "If thats the case Smith needs a rethink.
14 nil up at home against a very average Wigan side missing a few of their players and we lose at home in a Cup match.
Like I said great break by Newman but he bombed it plain and simple almost like he did for the first try that he got lucky with.
Olpherts a waste of space and Gannon since Smith and the coaching team have worked on his tackling technique seems to have lost impact.
MacDonald played far better when he was fasting!'"


Just as well we were only playing a very average Leeds side then eh?

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Quote: Pie_Eyter "Just as well we were only playing a very average Leeds side then eh?'"


Correct. The standard is pretty poor this year.

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