Does anyone know if Rhinos Management read this Board?

I very much doubt it. If they do however ' please clear out the rest of the dead wood and FFS get rid of Lowes too.'

If they do they quite rightly don’t take any notice otherwise Smith would have been sacked in 2006 and McDermott in 2011

Talk of getting rid of Furner is as daft as those previous suggestions on here.

Dear Christ I hope not.

i think they post on it as well as read it

Maybe they should then they might realise that both Half's are crap. All forwards are too small and too old and we can't defend for more than ten mins.

I think all those things would be a revelation to them, you should email GH just in case they don’t get to read such wisdom.

People love to scapegoat Lowes, how many tackles did he miss on Friday?

Scapegoat? Load of BS we need a different voice new ideas amongst ALL the staff Lowes was Mc.D's go to man.Furner should be allowed to bring his own in.

Genuine question; How do we know that Furner wasn't / isn't content with Lowes?

Here we go again! The usual suspects that went after BM since his first days are at it again. The simplistic logic to always blame the coach when things are not working continues. You would have thought they would have learnt something from our ex coach who produced a record breaking number of Cups despite the constant carping from his critics.

The main problem has been the failure of GH to invest in the team over many seasons. Ironically Mac's ability to produce results with an ageing squad well past their peak may have led GH into delaying serious recruitment. But when Sinfield, JP and Kylie retired we should have gone for some quality replacements especially as Mags and Burrow were soon to follow. These players were good enough to make other average players look better than they really were and with the likes of JJB, Delaney and Albett slowing up too we have been exposed in defence as well as attack.

It was wrong to blame BM for everything and naive to think changing the coach would solve the lack of quality recruitment. Under Sinfield last year the performances deteriorated even further despite some 2nd rate mid season recruitment..

Furner as brought in and finally money splashed out but it is too soon to say if these are the right signings. We are where we are and going after Furner fails to understand the difficulties of coaching players that are just not up to it.

He has not got the power up front in the pack and has not been able to use JJB, Ablet, Crosby and Golding due to injuries and has lost Ward his best defender. His three big signings arrived overweight and have not yet made consistent impact. Watkins has not looked match fit and we have had a very tough set of fixtures most of them away.

The coach will be assessing the players performances and will now know the weaknesses. But he must be given time and money to get his own balance in the squad.

The one on one tackling shown by all the players is just not good enough and we still need an organiser at half back and 2 big props.

There will be a full review during this season/at season end where changes will be made if needed I'm sure. I do look at Castleford's set-up with some envy; they of all clubs bring half backs through the best IMO, and develop a very high skill level across the team. Is it Orr and Sheridan behind the scenes there?

The more I think about it, the more I think we haven't had our academy set up quite right for a number of years. It takes maybe 5 years for your seeds to develop and we've probably been paying the price for mistakes made there from some time ago - albeit we may just have gone through a lean patch with quality players generally, they don't come reliably off the production line but often in waves.

I suspect we got an early march with the academy and were clearly the best for a while, but then other clubs outspent us/caught up a bit with facilities and as we were winning titles, we probably didn't keep our eye on it enough. Then when you see the problem in the first team (c.2016?), you're suddenly 5 years off fixing it again because you got complacent. We look about 2 years into that 5 to me.

That is my pet theory anyway - of course there are myriad factors, including some Lady Luck.

Great summary of where we are atm

Good post. We look in for a real long, hard road to recovery here. With Sinfield looking like he's taken some decision making from GH we need to give it all time, although in Crosby, Donaldson, Tui, Hurrell, Merrin the jury is still out. And I really didn't agree at all with our attempt to sign SOL at this stage in his career. Then again recently linked with Wellington Albert...

Sam Walters is a real coup though, pleased there.

Losing Ward again is definitely a blow, he stiffens our middle up considerably and is tough. Watkins has been way off form so far, and is not someone you can easily drop - not that we have anywhere other than first team he could really play. JJB and Ablett look physically shot, although they are both up for it mentally still.

I am starting to agree with those talking about another half. Lolohea looks like a not-as-good-as-Tony-Kemp figure at the moment. Myler is a solid club player, but not a consistent top-4 club player IMO.

All in all we have to recruit and develop players who can defend, roughly half our side looks regularly suspect in D and it's no wonder we're shipping tries. Must be infuriating for those that do put the work in only to see the usual suspects conceding line breaks every chuffing game.