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I don't think the timing of the semi helps either. I know a few of my friends who simply couldn't afford to do the semi and potentially the final just 2 weeks later. They would rather miss the semi, and hopefully go to Wembley, than go to semi and miss Wembley.

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Quote: Richie "2 points off the top of the table, 2nd best points difference, and people bitching about the team. I don't miss that.'"


Superficially and yes on paper there should be nothing to complain about....but I do suggest you read Les Norton's post again.

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Quote: nantwichexile "Superficially and yes on paper there should be nothing to complain about....but I do suggest you read Les Norton's post again.'"


"people are just sick of the frequent poor performances" that have led the team to 2nd in the table and 2nd best points difference and the CC semi final.

"We should be top of the table" Why? Are we genetically different from Wigan, Saints, Warrington, Huddersfield? And whoever else is spending to the cap?

"but we aren't because we are underachieving" Fuk knows what would be considered over achieving then?

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Quote: Les Norton "You know what? I think people are just sick of the frequent poor performances. If we were a poor team we'd accept it, but we aren't. We should be top of the table. We should be going into this Semi full of optimism, but we aren't because we are underachieving and playing beneath ourselves. This is why we aren't snapping tickets up, we are disilusioned.

I have a ticket and I'm confident that we will win the game but I can completely understand why others are not attending.'"


I was well up for going and my student card is valid for another 5 weeks, so this is the last game almost I could have got a concession ticket for - I could have gone for just £9.

I've never been to a cup semi-final of a team I support (and won't for a while otherwise, as an NUFC football fan!) and really want us to go to Wembley as i've similarly never been there before and might not ever get chance to in the football.

We have been pants for weeks and my MA research project is due in in 6 days, yet I was planning on getting a ticket still at the Bradford, even though common sense told me not to due as I would be better using the time to sort any last-minute issues with my project. However, I was forgoing common sense and was going to go.

Then we were just as bad / worse against Bradford and I thought 'you know what, what is the point? They aren't bothered and have been short changing me.'

Even though it would just be £9 (plus travel) since May their effort and commitment hasn't matched mine at times.

To the poster who mentioned football, it is more expensive, yes - but I would say it has become more family-orientated / diverse. But similarly there, I know many who have had season tickets (at a range of clubs) for years who have stopped renewing. Whatever you pay, and however much disposable income you have, I think generally people want to see effort and commitment.

We all make commitments to be there every other week - to go to away games, to go to cup games and this impacts financially, annoys our partners as we are unavailable, changes when we work. If Leeds play 100% on Sat and somehow lose by 40 points I will be less bothered than if they bumble along and scam a win from it somehow.

So I will watch on TV, I will scream and eff and jeff at the TV, get told to be quiet by others in the house and will probably be unable to focus on my project after if we lose as I will be gutted. That is my commitment to them in this game, as theirs has fallen short for several weeks now and worst of all is that there hasn't been any noticeable effort to give 100% and come back through the other side of it.

I know it isn't the same thing, but if you are in a relationship with someone and when you meet up they just go through the motions and are pretty half-a$$sed about everything, but keep offering you future dates (that you have to pay for), eventually you say 'i'm not really getting back equivalent from what i have been putting in for the last few months - so i think i will skip this time and go out with my mates instead, thanks'.

Then maybe next time the date will put a bit more effort in, knowing that you won't just blindly and loyally accept everything they throw at you...

Hmm.

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Quote: nantwichexile "Superficially and yes on paper there should be nothing to complain about....but I do suggest you read Les Norton's post again.'"


and perhaps you should read Richie's post again!

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Can't even sell 8,000 tickets? So much for a self-styled 'big club'.

We've sold all our tickets for our game as have our neighbours Warrington.


Conclusion...RL fans west of the Pennines are far more passionate about our clubs.

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Quote: Jamie101 "I was well up for going and my student card is valid for another 5 weeks, so this is the last game almost I could have got a concession ticket for - I could have gone for just £9.

I've never been to a cup semi-final of a team I support (and won't for a while otherwise, as an NUFC football fan!) and really want us to go to Wembley as i've similarly never been there before and might not ever get chance to in the football.

We have been pants for weeks and my MA research project is due in in 6 days, yet I was planning on getting a ticket still at the Bradford, even though common sense told me not to due as I would be better using the time to sort any last-minute issues with my project. However, I was forgoing common sense and was going to go.

Then we were just as bad / worse against Bradford and I thought 'you know what, what is the point? They aren't bothered and have been short changing me.'

Even though it would just be £9 (plus travel) since May their effort and commitment hasn't matched mine at times.

To the poster who mentioned football, it is more expensive, yes - but I would say it has become more family-orientated / diverse. But similarly there, I know many who have had season tickets (at a range of clubs) for years who have stopped renewing. Whatever you pay, and however much disposable income you have, I think generally people want to see effort and commitment.

We all make commitments to be there every other week - to go to away games, to go to cup games and this impacts financially, annoys our partners as we are unavailable, changes when we work. If Leeds play 100% on Sat and somehow lose by 40 points I will be less bothered than if they bumble along and scam a win from it somehow.

So I will watch on TV, I will scream and eff and jeff at the TV, get told to be quiet by others in the house and will probably be unable to focus on my project after if we lose as I will be gutted. That is my commitment to them in this game, as theirs has fallen short for several weeks now and worst of all is that there hasn't been any noticeable effort to give 100% and come back through the other side of it.

I know it isn't the same thing, but if you are in a relationship with someone and when you meet up they just go through the motions and are pretty half-a$$sed about everything, but keep offering you future dates (that you have to pay for), eventually you say 'i'm not really getting back equivalent from what i have been putting in for the last few months - so i think i will skip this time and go out with my mates instead, thanks'.

Then maybe next time the date will put a bit more effort in, knowing that you won't just blindly and loyally accept everything they throw at you...

Hmm.'"



Cool story icon_cool.gif

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Quote: WidnesJohn "Can't even sell 8,000 tickets? So much for a self-styled 'big club'.

We've sold all our tickets for our game as have our neighbours Warrington.


Conclusion...RL fans west of the Pennines are far more passionate about our clubs.'"


When the games are being played in the west side of the pennines.

Shock!

What a numpty.

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I'm watching it on the sofa with afew peeves. On my best behaviour for this one I'm afraid. No more getting f-cked eating a kebab box outside a takeaway. Not for this one anyway.

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Quote: RhinoNeil "Cool story

Haha! I am assuming this was sarcastic..? I can go on a bit sometimes! icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Jamie101 "Even though it would just be £9 (plus travel) since May their effort and commitment hasn't matched mine at times.'"


You heroic son of a gun, stories will be written and films made depicting the lengths and events of your effort and commitment.

Quote: Jamie101 "I know it isn't the same thing, but if you are in a relationship with someone and when you meet up they just go through the motions and are pretty half-a$$sed about everything, but keep offering you future dates (that you have to pay for), eventually you say 'i'm not really getting back equivalent from what i have been putting in for the last few months - so i think i will skip this time and go out with my mates instead, thanks'.

Then maybe next time the date will put a bit more effort in, knowing that you won't just blindly and loyally accept everything they throw at you.'"


Terrible comparison. In rugby the commitment for the team is to perform at a very high level and show great effort and put on an entertaining show and put their bodies on the line.....whereas the commitment for the fan is to turn up and watch. Pity any potential partner for you with that thinking icon_smile.gif

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Quote: WidnesJohn "Can't even sell 8,000 tickets? So much for a self-styled 'big club'.

We've sold all our tickets for our game as have our neighbours Warrington.


Conclusion...RL fans west of the Pennines are far more passionate about our clubs.'"


Plus Widnes fans have had 20 odd years to save up since their last big cup game...

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Quote: Jamie101 "

I know it isn't the same thing, but

'"


This was the opportune moment to step away from this particular analogy.

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Quote: El Diablo "This was the opportune moment to step away from this particular analogy.'"


Well yeah, you live and learn. Just be happy I am still fairly new here so have yet to take to start down the path of hurling personal insults at those who disagree with me! icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Jamie101 "Well yeah, you live and learn. Just be happy I am still fairly new here so have yet to take to start down the path of hurling personal insults at those who disagree with me!
Be extra careful about using the analogy the other way round.

A lot of girls don't like to be romantically compared with Rugby League.

Flighty creatures.

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