I had hoped that one or two of those whose ashes are scattered on the hallowed turf might have just got together and tripped the meerkat when he was about to kick - but alas they werent there !!

Nothing mentioned on this thread about Burrow kicking into touch on 40 minutes when a kick and chase was the best option.

I didnt think McShane was offside, and he could have had a quick look to check before making a tackle or at least get onside and then make a tackle. There was also another long run that went untackled. Watkins should not, however good it was, be admiring long passes to the winger he should be marking either!

Quote: Chorley Rhino "Nothing mentioned on this thread about Burrow kicking into touch on 40 minutes when a kick and chase was the best option.'" This wasn't the original thread discussing Friday's game but in addition, on the Burrow point specifically, it has it's own thread here: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=488882

Quote: Chorley Rhino "Nothing mentioned on this thread about Burrow kicking into touch on 40 minutes when a kick and chase was the best option.'" This wasn't the original thread discussing Friday's game but in addition, on the Burrow point specifically, it has it's own thread here: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=488882

Having watched again I stick with Buderus for MOM with Sinfield a close 2nd. Big games from JJB and Ablett. Kirke appeared to have made some tackles but poor go forward again. Kylie, Cross and Clarkson not on the field enough and Hauraki dissappointing. Were any of these injured?

Cross drove the ball into contact with much more momentum than Kirke or Bailey ever do and is starting to look like a the sort of prop we need.

Lack of passing skills by Webb and Senior proved costly as did Senior's woeful defence and lack of speed in those final 10 minutes.

But overall more positives than negatives.

Opta stats would suggest otherwise unless you believe thta others were equally poor re "go forward". Didn't have you down as a G1 apologist or disciple.

The stats which you usually refer to don't back your argument up re: TMFMISL.

Over to you.......

If Juan's opinion differs to yours why does he have to be an "apologist/disciple"?

FWIW, you're on the wrong track as I have praised Kirke this week (and have done so after other games this season) so Juan and I are in disagreement.

Just shows how people miss the reality of what is posted. Perhaps when I critique Kirke, Buderus or any other player people should respond to the text I write rather than a perceived agenda those unable to properly refute my opinions claim that I have.

Where have I stated my opinion?
I know you praised Kirke this week, where do I say you didn't?

Exactly, they could turn on you at any time if you fail to deliver.

Certainly not the latter!

I think our priops all were assisted in their total metres by the easy yards return kick sort of run which bumps up the total metres a la Graham and Peacock. I prefer to see the metres per carry providing the players makes sufficent carries that is but even these are distorted by kick returns.

In this game Kirke was 6.17m per carry which is not good!

Without seeing the stats I'd guess that is pretty much his season average.

2011 - Kirke's average metre/carry 7.05 (2010 - 6.09)

Game by game:
4.50
7.75
8.25
7.50
8.00
5.67
Ill
6.17

Cross at full speed? Or Cross at his full speed?

Either way I think you are a little out with this one.

The stats don't show the whole story, by far, it's just you seem to cling to them in most arguments.

Yes the stats don't show the whole story that was my point about Cross. If you look again at some of his drives he was taking the ball into collision at full speed without hesitation.

Overall our forwards stood up to be counted. I don't understand the lack of game time for Clarkson or Leuluai (Cross went off injured) unless they were injured and this may have contributed to others being tired at the end of the game. Also we had a day less to rest/prepare for the game.

In the end you could argue it was our backs passing & defensive errors that really cost us the game.