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Quote: BigJake "he was ref at wire v rovers that i went to last month

IMHO he was excellent and had a good wcc all refs have ups and downs'"

Indeed. He was rubbish yesterday though. I actually thought JJB's try was legitimate, I thought he bounced rather than made a second effort forward. Some of the other decisions, for both sides, were ridiculous though, as was the amount of times he got in the way of either attackers or defenders.

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I didn't mind the ref to be honest. He kept the game open. Leeds-Salford was never going to be a classic. Meh.

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ouch that hurt.... oh its broken:



Did anyone else get exasperated at the amount of times he indicated the ball had gone backwards...?
As for the Jones-Buchanan try it looked like he lifted the ball carrying arm after it hit the ground while the tackler was still attached... is that not the defination of a double movement..?

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Quote: SniffA "As for the Jones-Buchanan try it looked like he lifted the ball carrying arm after it hit the ground while the tackler was still attached... is that not the defination of a double movement..?'"


At full speed it looked like it was momentum that carried him over the line but the couple of time they showed the reply on the big screen he does seem push himself forward after the initial tackle.

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ouch that hurt.... oh its broken:



I take your comments on board, and it leads me to think if the video ref was to adjudicate on the try it would not have been allowed. That said the in goal assistant to the ref was very close to the incident and he said try, so it was a good.

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Quote: SniffA "I take your comments on board, and it leads me to think if the video ref was to adjudicate on the try it would not have been allowed. That said the in goal assistant to the ref was very close to the incident and he said try, so it was a good.'"



It was a try. His forward momentum didnt stop until he grounded the ball.

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totally disagree. i was right in front of it and it was a clear double movement

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Quote: tad rhino "totally disagree. i was right in front of it and it was a clear double movement'"



The momentum never stopped so he is allowed to reach out

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i thought he had stopped though.

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Quote: tad rhino "i thought he had stopped though.'"


No, he hit the floor a couple of feet out and as he bounced he moved his arm our in front of him. Plus there were 4 officials in the area so if he had of stopped first you would have expected at least 1 to notice it.

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4 points were added on the scoreboard = T.R.Y time . End of debate .




( unless they then remove the points like they did at York a few weeks ago )

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Quote: Harrigan "No, he hit the floor a couple of feet out and as he bounced he moved his arm our in front of him. Plus there were 4 officials in the area so if he had of stopped first you would have expected at least 1 to notice it.'"


If he had passed to a colleague instead of reaching out for the tryline, after his initial contact with the floor would his pass have been legal or would he have been penalised for "passing off the floor"?

When is a situation a penalty offence and when is it not?

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Two different scenarios.

In your example probably a penalty against Jones-Buchanan for passing off the floor (this isn't Union tha knows), while in the real life example from Friday a try to Jones-Buchanan was probably the correct call as his momentum had not stopped when he hit the floor although you could make a case to say he propelled himself forward with his knees after the bounce so it was one that could have gone either way.

He'd have been unlucky to have it chalked off though (and Leeds were owed one after McGuire had a legitimate score ruled out for a double movement last season at Hull KR.)

Just reward for the prop forward after working so hard to get there in support.

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Quote: tvoc "Two different scenarios.

In your example probably a penalty against Jones-Buchanan for passing off the floor (this isn't Union tha knows), while in the real life example from Friday a try to Jones-Buchanan was probably the correct call as his momentum had not stopped when he hit the floor although you could make a case to say he propelled himself forward with his knees after the bounce so it was one that could have gone either way.

He'd have been unlucky to have it chalked off though (and Leeds were owed one after McGuire had a legitimate score ruled out for a double movement last season at Hull KR.)

Just reward for the prop forward after working so hard to get there in support.'"


& having to fight off the ref as well as Burrow to get hold of the ball!!

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It most other circumstances it would've been the most blatant double movement I'd ever seen, except he was wearing a Leeds shirt, so I'm gonna say it was fine.

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