I've reported this post. Through sheer outrage.

It's getting harder and harder to tell the trolls and the deluded apart on this forum these days.

Indeed.

So why did Flower stop punching Hohaia's face then if he was in a blind fit of rage... why just the one punch when he was in such an advantageous position and not in full control of his faculties? Why just one punch and not a frenzied attack if his decision making wasn't conscious as you suggest?

I tell you why, it's because you're talking b*ll*x.

Steady on Bang,I have it on good authority that El D is akin to a whirling dervish when he starts be outraged at your peril!
He can out Flower,Flower.

I'm the Ben Flower of angry letters to my local paper. Grrrrrrrrrr.

Given your habit of trolling the boards/fans of some other clubs, I'd be cautious about casting aspersions on trolls if I were you...

I agree the matter should be closed and moved on from. However the problem is that it was the last game of the season, until the 4 Nations starts what have fans and journalists got to talk and write about?

Had it happened early in the playoffs then with the semis and GF to play they'd have been something for people to move onto topic-wise.

No way. I've seen the video of that and it's utterly sickening. I also think Newton on Long was worse as he actually intended to seriously injure him.

Moriarty on Waddell is just about the worst I've seen. Hughie being held by two tacklers, and The Evil Moriarty* comes flying in elbow first at Waddell's head.

Look up 'Leeds 26 vs Widnes 12 (1989) 1/2' on youtube and got to about 2 mins 20 secs. The shot from the scoreboard end really captures it.

*(c) Stuart Duffy (pre turning to the dark side)

Bull$hit if the highest order. Two big lads having a set to was a part of the game I miss also, but I have no nostalgia whatsoever for thugs who took out playmakers. A prop knocking out and then smacking again a defenceless half on the ground is not "biff", it's the thuggery that blighted the sport for decades. Les Boyd got two bans of 12 months for acts of thuggery in the days when big lads could sort things out amongst themselves. You obviously can't tell the difference.

Having said that, the ban is fair and Flower should be treated like any other player once he's playing again. He's a good player and if he can control himself and put this behind him he has a great future on the game.

Flower wasnt unconscious. He didnt suffer some kind of psychotic episode. His frustration and anger simply manifested itself in a horrible violent manner. There was no justification, no mitigation, no context. It was exactly as violent and aggressive as it looked.

I agree with this. The flipside being that it wasn't in any way pre-meditated.

Bad incident, appropriately punished in my opinion.

Disgusting flying elbow I agree. I hope you were describing from memory rather than watching it though because there's no way he was being held by 2 tacklers. At worst the hit was roughly the same time 1 other player was going into the tackle.

I think the hit on Morley at Wigan takes some pre-meditated deliberate elbow at speed into the eye area - disgusting far worse than what Flower did.