Sutcliffe has adequately played Full Back for a period before. He won't be able to grab the jinking quick, but can bring the ball back and catch. He's solid. Agreed on the O'Brien comment.

It seems like two different seasons we were looking something like before the lockdown

Only way I can see Agar going this season is if we seriously nose dive but I don’t think we will. However I’d like to see him replaced next year personally unless we significantly improve

Who would you like to see as our next head coach?

Lets get a settled spine and a settled front row and see where are at.

We are currently on our 3rd full back, got a young 6, our hooker made his 1st start and we are chopping and changing at 13 weekly. We are bound to look disjointed and we did.

Were not helping ourselves at the moment with handling errors and poor discipline. A couple of our backs have mistakes a plenty in them unfortunately and thats not going to change.

Our last tackle plays are truly dreadful. No idea why our hookers cant just pass to Luke Gale on the last. It doesnt seem difficult to me yet whoever plays 9 seems to want to throw to the nearest prop on tbe last or to someone on a crash ball near the line. Its absolutely ridiculous and if im honest its doing my head in. That said i think Leeming grafted and Dwyer as an impact sub is only way to go.

A few havent come back from lockdown as they went into it and we need them to get back to the same form. All teams suffered lockdown some have come back strong and some havent. We certainly havent.

Plenty just arent good enough. Simple as that.

I’ve no idea at this stage. There’s many factors to consider but long term I just genuinely feel Agar isn’t right. I’d love to be proved wrong though and he’s a good guy who deserves credit for settling the ship.

A fair post

The one who should have been here before Furner, the one who perfectly matches what our clubs says they are striving to achieve, that is Griffin.

He would certainly be on the short list. Class imo

I would definititely stick with McLelland without a doubt and see how he develops throughout the season. Surely he isn't been slated? He was doing enough covering out there for Martins poor defence for a start, and that isn't even his job. Seemed to be growing as it went on, and really liked it when he took the line on. Looks much better value for money than Lui.

Good choice. Would be very pleased with Griffin.

Not at all. Before lockdown was an uneven fixture list, that made us look good against poor teams. Now the fixtures are evening out and we look now right. Lets be honest here, had we played Huddersfield away before lockdown and Catalans away, we wouldn't have won either game at the time.

Whilst i totally agree we was playing easier teams pre-lockdown the team was going ok. Players like Gale and Cam Smith was going really well. We looked a happy more cohesive team and while its easy to dismiss the wins we was playing some decent rugby in my opinion at that time. Certainly much better than we currently are. We had some combinations going ok and Smith and Cuthbo off the bench was working well.

At the time of lockdown we was playing with confidence. You cant deny that Gotcha?

In terms of your comments on McLelland i agree 100% definately worth sticking with. Needs game time. Hes a tough kid, when he takes the line on he looks good, things to work on but definately has a chance and i would keep him there.

I am not denying we looked ok, we did. But it was against easy teams, but for the Warrington match, and confidence grew as a result. Had we played those two games I mentioned though, it would have been a different situation on the mentality side, which would have effected that confidence.

Agree Marty we had a good structure ,decent cohesion & Gale was settling in nicely into his 7 role.
We have none of that currently , our lack of Quality is now exposed as is our poor recruitment/retention.
The biggest things for me though are our poor fitness poor basics & lack of Coaching expertise.
We make far too many unforced errors & stupid decisions all from senior Pros.
We are very predictable & as much as i rate Handley there's no way on this planet he's a FB.
His running is very good but he cant read when to chime in & pass on our attacks.
That for me is a Coaching issue i.e selections , Wigans younger Pack outlasted us & won the grind whilst their pace did the rest.
We hzve younger lads ready who will do no worse & imo would give us more positives especially with their been no relegation.
To be honest Christopher was right re-some would jump on the youngsters back but imo the majority would stick with them whilst gain experience ready to go next Year better prepared.