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Quote: D4mo78 "Shame really because Gotcha clearly has a lot of knowledge about the game and I enjoy most of his posts. But he rarely changes his opinion or accepts anyone else's if they disagree with him. The lad maybe doesn't have the ability but tries, like when he almost got out of the in goal. And at a time when so many of the team have been going through the mentions, he's been someone to at least give it a go'"


I agree on the ingoal area, and I don’t even blame him for the drop ball from the kick, as all those Cas players were way offside. But the rest of his game was awful. His positioning in defence terrible, and the really frustrating issue of not been on his wing when attacks are made there. But the biggest thing last night was the the Hurrell no try. It shouldn’t have come to that, even kids teams wingers would have scored before that. What he was doing with flailing arms on the floor I do not know, it was quite simple to score.

If he plays well, I will quite gladly comment on it, and I have a couple of times. But most times he is a very poor winger. I actually think he is better at centre.

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Quote: Gotcha "He should have gone for the ball, Simple as. The player dropping the ball had nothing to do with Handley, he wasn’t there for the drop, that was because of the pass. Handley has no idea what he is doing and just goes for the man. The ball was there.'"

I didn’t think Handley had time to go for the ball. The Cas player was already catching the ball as Handley got there. It was Handley’s pressure that contributed to it being dropped.

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Quote: Him "I didn’t think Handley had time to go for the ball. The Cas player was already catching the ball as Handley got there. It was Handley’s pressure that contributed to it being dropped.'"


And I disagree. The ball was dropped with or without Handley. The ball had bounced up off the floor before Handley took the man.

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Quote: Gotcha "He should have gone for the ball, Simple as. The player dropping the ball had nothing to do with Handley, he wasn’t there for the drop, that was because of the pass. Handley has no idea what he is doing and just goes for the man. The ball was there.'"


If Handley had gone for the ball and missed it Cas had an open field, he made the correct decision as the result showed.

Simple as

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Quote: christopher "If Handley had gone for the ball and missed it Cas had an open field, he made the correct decision as the result showed.

Simple as'"


No, you are misreading the timeline. I am not talking about the pass, I am talking about the dropped ball. There was no chance for an open field, as the Knock on was already made. He went for the man, despite the dropped ball.

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Can I please ask what it matters if Handley went for the ball or the man? Lol.

Great effort great win. Let's be happy about it.

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According to the YEP Daryl Powell thinks there were some "tough calls" against them. Not sure what else Thaler could have done with a 13-6 penalty count in their favour and a lot of 50/50 calls going their way (especially all the ball steal penalties they got compared to the loose carry knock-ons given when we lost it in the tackle).

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Quote: Holmes "According to the YEP Daryl Powell thinks there were some "tough calls" against them. Not sure what else Thaler could have done with a 13-6 penalty count in their favour and a lot of 50/50 calls going their way (especially all the ball steal penalties they got compared to the loose carry knock-ons given when we lost it in the tackle).'"

Yep it was 3 or 4 calls from Thaler that effectively got Cas back into the game.
There were 2 in particular virtually back to back midway in the second half where he gave a knock-on against us despite Cas hands all over the ball and then a penalty against us for the same thing.
Then another one after the kick off I think that he then gave us a team warning for.

In defence of the refs it’s very difficult to tell but there was a period there where it felt harsh towards us.

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Quote: Him "I didn’t think Handley had time to go for the ball. The Cas player was already catching the ball as Handley got there. It was Handley’s pressure that contributed to it being dropped.'"


The facts are that Blair couldn't afford not to take that horror of a pass and Handley couldn't afford to let him get past him with the ball. Only one of them got their script right.

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Well needed performance and win despite appalling refereeing. It's not just Thaler, there's been poor refs at times during the 60+ years I've been a supporter/fan of Leeds. But nowadays, more than ever, this sorry bunch have direct influence on results. So much so that I've decided not to watch superleague unless Leeds are playing.

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The ball steal lottery is getting ridiculous. We definitely need to introduce 2 referees, I thought they were meant to be trialling it in the U19s this season?

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Powell is clearly a good coach, but he also comes across as a miserable so-and-so.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "The ball steal lottery is getting ridiculous. We definitely need to introduce 2 referees, I thought they were meant to be trialling it in the U19s this season?'"

McShane got his hands in almost every tackle. Outcome was successful slowing PTB while opposition player tried to disentangle, and at least 2 “knock ons” won.

Whilever cheating gets rewarded players will do it to gain an advantage. All sides do it to some extent but I particularly noticed McShane last night.

I’ve also seen players drop the ball when in possession and tackled by 2+ players when they fee they’ll win a penalty.

If we can get rid of this crap it will significantly enhance the spectacle.

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Powell, thank god he's extended his contract at Cas, some on here really like him, candidly he is a poor looser, always Blames others for his shortcomings , look at last nights game, Thaller tried everything to help Cas and he comes out with they got some bad calls. He is a miserable bitch, I wouldn't pee on him if he was on fire.
The good news, we played well , we won and I'm happy, I even had my testicles played with by two Cas women, well one was a women .

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They could have done with those ball handling skills on the pitch.

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