Agreed

We had Mercer luckily return that year aswell who made a huge difference. Didn't we go through even more players that year than this?

In agree. Thompson's defence is woeful with high numbers of missed tackles. In both games that Smith and Thompson have played together Smith had a much higher work rate per minute and made 1 missed tackle compared with 19 from Thompson

Sinfield rated JJB as our best forward against Widnes!

He had no choice given our serious injury crisis and Sinfield has reported he is having to do the same!

He probably was, not saying much though is it.

Well it indicates he should not be written off quite so quickly. Some posters seem to have forgotten his big efforts in the first part of the season when we had no props and we had only lost 2 games in the first third of matches despite the injuries. Before his injury we were only losing games by a couple of points with the very odd exception.

He really wasn't. Crosby looked much better. But I wouldn't expect anything different from Sinfield, and exactly highlights why it needs someone not connected with the players for next season.

But JJB made more tackles, more marker tackles, more meters and more metres per carry and he also made more tackle busts and fewer missed tackles than Crosby and he played more minutes with a better work rate per minute. So his performance was more effective than Crosby which is why Sinfield made his comment.

Singleton also put in a high work rate per minute and made the most tackles but only made half the metres of JJB and less carries which were also less effective.

In that regard I completely agree, I think Furner has the chance to leave a permanent mark on the club, it's the sort of experience that's difficult to come by, a big club needing a total overhaul and a boss who sees it exactly the same way no doubt. Nobody will be expecting Furner to make us champions - even by the end of his three years.

McD should have gone in 2015. I was also not a hater but to allow the team to get to the state it's in now is borderline criminal. He was never able (apart from 2015) to show league consistency. We became a big game side, but that relied heavily on players that are now gone. So now we can't win a big game and all that's left is McD's speciality - crap league form.

Actually despite numbers from a sheet you have no way of knowing that. You wasn't there was you? You can obviously say what tackles were made and metres per carry, but you have no idea how effective they were, let's not pretend. You said yourself they played more minutes, so obviously the individual stats should be more, but I repeat that in no way determines effectiveness, which is the word you used.

Have you got a link to the stats, would be interesting to have a look

Maybe with hindsight but not many clubs will get rid of a coach who has just overseen the best season in the clibs history

A lot of people on here thought he should have gone end of 2015, myself included. He had won everything and had nothing left to prove or achieve with us and he should have left the clear out of the old guard to someone else there and then. Obviously the club were not going to push him but it just felt right imo for him to go along with the other greats who called it correct at the time to draw a line under the era.