I have always thought that

London Broncos have done. David Argyle is in it for the long run and The Wolfpack get more paying fans than several Super League clubs. They are very different to Crusaders and PSG.

Bradford dropping out of SL was a bad thing for the game. I said that at the time and I stick by it. I'd say the same about Wigan, Sts, ourselves and Wire, and Hull too. We could lose Salford, Wakefield, Huddersfield and replace them with Leigh or Widnes and SL wouldn't change markedly. But lose one of the few genuine big clubs and the game would be impacted massively. Sky would laugh their collective backsides off if you suggested SL was the same value without Leeds and with Widnes/Leigh, or even Toronto in the short term..

The fact that fans of clubs mentioned will get upset by that doesn't change the reality.

Having said that, the only way for the sport to grow is via TV deals and that most likely means more clubs from outside the M62 corridor. Ideally we'd be able to expand the competition, but I doubt we have the players to do it. But if we had decent negotiators, being able to pitch a sport with a presence in London, France and even north America backed up by a core of 'big' traditional teams makes a lot easier sell than without them. What makes no sense at all to me is keeping P&R to salve fans of yoyo teams.

Its all a bit moot - right now the rules are we finish bottom we get relegated. We have to assume that will be the case regardless of any longer-term plan.

You may be right although I don't think the free ticket/sugar daddy model was ever their long term plan. It might ultimately boil down to how badly Sky want them in - and given how some teams are presenting in 3/4 empty stadiums there must be some interest at least.

So we will make it that big clubs cannot be relegated then?
Leeds brings more to Leeds and it is relative. The income is much bigger than other clubs but it can only spend the same ATM other than marquis signings. Other clubs don't generate the same income but compete. It's what's on the pitch that counts not off it and at the moment Leeds are pretty sure for a high income club perhaps arrogance and it will never or can never happen to us breeds complacency where smaller clubs it's it won't happen to us. Now take football big teams suffer the threat of relegation like the smaller ones and on occasion a big one goes down the sport survives. Now Leeds are in a rut it's up to the club to get out of it not the rest of the league to make way!

Bradford dropping out of SL was bad for Bradford since they went down Wakey Wire Cas Dragons & FC have got stronger & challenged the remaining "big 3" on a regular basis.
If we go down we deserve it & other Clubs will challenge ST's etc.

He didnt appear to do a decent job with what he had.

How many times are they in for training? Hurrell looks like he has put 5kg on since he's been here. A lot of them after 60mins look absolutely shot to bits. What are they doing all day? Playing XBOX and eating free scran in manhatta and instagramming it for the owner?

My wife was at seminar in London last year, Sinfield was guest speaker. After over coffee she asked him what was going on at the club. She said he looked gutted and basically said he said the certain discipline and ethics in the club that was there when they were winning had gone. Even Stevie Wonder can see that. Now get it sorted and get these fat @rsed wasters grafting.

There is now way in this world that Wakefield have got stronger, or in a lot of case Cas even. Wakefield had a far far better side in 2005 I think it was, and this lot wouldn't come close to it. The competition has got much much weaker that is all, and that is as a consequence of losing its best bits, i.e. losing top clubs, and dumbing down the top teams to the gutter level of the bottom teams. Should never have happened, and is going to take something special to recover, even with the top teams on board, but without them not a chance.

And I think that is one of the problems that will take a while to fix, and I genuinely believe Sinfield is in it for the long haul and wants to fix the problems.

It's only a small thing but Didn't Myler mention that one of things he first made the players do was tidy up after themselves after being in the Gym, as I say its a small thing but if a lot of small things like that happen at a club it can lead to bad attitude and ethics on the pitch aswell as off.

Cas have reached Wembley a GF won the LLS & are now consistently top 3/4.
Wakey are more consistent plus Wire & the Dragins are certainly better than back then.
The standard of the comp is lower is because the new SC in NRL dwarfs ours so less genuine stars are coming & the better SL homegrown players are moving to the NRL.
Throw in less homegrown superstars are getting produced thats naff all to do with Bradford going down who overspent & cheated beyond their means to gain success

The whole competition is absolute gutter level, nothing to do with the NRL cap. Look at it in Hull, an hotbed of rugby talent, even they came out last week and said so few want to play the game anymore in Hull. The game is dying, and it is dying because we have dumbed down its top competition, because of an obsession people had with making it competitive. Competitive should never have been at the expense of quality. The current Cas and Wakefield teams wouldn't come close to some of their sides that never came close to winning anything. They are consistently up there because the competition is so poor, and only because of that. To weaken that further by taking out the games major cash cow and major attraction to the community game, would be absolute suicide.

The games on its ariss because enough kids aren’t playing it- and enough kids aren’t playing it because there’s no money at grassroots level, the number and standard of coaches is shocking, most are volunteers some of whom haven’t played the game themselves to any level. Finding enough people willing to volunteer is difficult. There are fewer clubs running u13-u16 teams. Should realise that at Leeds- given it’s just been the Rhinos challenge weekend.
My lad has played RL since he was 6- there were loads of local clubs in our area he played against back when he started, he’s now 15 and there are only two other teams that are running an U15-and it sounds like one of those may fold.
Did you watch the games at the summer bash? A lot more entertaining than the hyped up cheating sh*te we see every week in SL.

Problem with Leeds is they think the game revolves around and relies upon SL. And it really doesn’t.