I’ve got no problem in criticising the recruitment, players snd the coach but when its just the same old posters posting the same old stuff each year it just seems A bit pointless.

You mention Peacock, McGuire, Sinfield etc, these are players that according to some on here were past it in 2011 and the whole side should gave been moved on... 4 years later look what happened

A bit harsh on Ward, he did well to be even on the park for the 2nd half. I've no other suggestion for captain. To be fair we did finish after 80 minutes with 11 players on the field. No we were not good and a weak Huddersfield side did deserve the win. The league is done for us this year, hopefully we can stay in the top 8 and have 7 meaningless games to finish off. Our only hope is to throw everything we have at the semi and tbh I cant see us beating Warrington but never write off a Rhino

You can be more than certain that some of the same people who are criticising McDermott are ones who forced Tony Smith out of the club in 2007. There's nothing new under the sun. Perhaps it will take a three decade period with an empty trophy cabinet for them to stop being so spoiled by success.

For me its not about the trophies its about seeing elite athletes performing to something like elite standard - that simply isn't happening. Injuries are a fortunate distraction.

As others have said little point arguing with you about McDermott, pot and kettle come mind when you suggest others cannot be objective about the coach - I think you actually believe he could walk on the surface of the River Aire. That is exactly what you want kill any argument that conflicts with your entrenched views.


2016 it was easy to use the Kirstall floods as an excuse - other clubs performed far better will even worse facilities than Leeds had to use. 2016 was also impacted by very poor decision making by the coach - something he has admitted to - playing injured players, shortening the pre-season chasing wins early doors!!

Smith went because the players had lost respect - nothing to do with the spectators. Same happened to McClennan.

Do you still maintain the view that GH brought in McDermott who he (GH) knew was going to be rubbish to undermine Brian Maclennan?

And do you still think Jamie Peacock should have been pensioned off in 2011?

Save your breath/fingers mate. They killed this board years ago!

Smith got stick in 06 because of his silly policy, which he admitted was wrong, of a small mobile pack. first half of 07 was awful too. JP said a few weeks back the they were awful and a players meeting which was very Frank, he almost came to blows with another player, sorted a lot of things out. McLennan was the right call to leave when he did. he was a master motivator not a top coach per se with regards to infield tactical stuff. you can only say things so many times.macdermott was the perfect fit. had a top class experienced squad and he simply guided them. I'm not being disparaging by this. he didn't over coach like wane does. he trusted them. perfect.
now, imo of course, it's time for a wane type coach. better still a Robinson quality coach. Brian's been fantastic bit it's time for a change again.

Wigan wernt boring to watch under maguire, they were actually the second top points scorers in the league in both of his seasons over here, they had some fantastic attacking structures which other teams struggled to cope with. The criticism of him was that he was a proponent of the wrestle when they were defending, He was the best in the league at it, and it resulted in the oppositions play the ball being snail paced. A lot of people didnt like it, but thats what good coaches do.

Powells worked wonders with the hand he was dealt when he arrived at cas, he's turned them from relegation fodder, into a top club. I consider him a very good coach.

I didn’t say boring i said horrible

Both him and Powell are good coaches (maguire more so) Powell needs to win one of the big games before he can be classed as great

Maguire was innovative and a brilliant coach. he also coached thuggish tactics aimed at injuring players.they played an away game, not Leeds, and a member of staff told me they had a sheet on the wall documenting every opposition player, his recent I juries and operations.
brilliant? yes. but a scumbag too

I agree about Powell. needs to win something. might he go to Wigan next year? might be the next step up