You on about your young promising FB's and that 32 year old Gladstone Small you've currently got playing there who sounds like he'll be there in 2015 too?

As opposed to NZ warriors where they have a clear run to the first team

The reality is it was 2 raw youngsters who made a handful of first team appearences.

The fact you compare losing them to the likes of the tomkins brothers once again damages your credibility, but then you've always had a strong agenda regarding leeds youth system on here.

Aye, but you can bet your last pound as soon as McIlorum leaves he'll suddenly become a gobshiite in their eyes. Blinkered ain't in it!

Can someone bring me up to speed, is Rogues a troll or real?

Real, but fighting a losing battle on a few fronts this time.

usually pretty decent bloke but making himself look silly on this

This was also something put forward on the Saints board but I'd be surprised if the national side had a half who wasn't at least playing there on a regular basis, especially as we have Widdop currently waiting in the wings plus some good young halves coming through once Sinfield does hang up his boots. I also think he'd be more tempted to play Tomkins in the halves and Hardaker at FB if that's the route he did decide to go down, given that he's played him there in the past albeit against lesser opposition. I still find it difficult to imagine that given Brough, a dedicated half, couldn't make the squad last time round that McNamara would suddenly see a fullback as a better option. Having said that, stranger things have happened when it comes to the national side!

FYI, Brough didn't make the squad because he's a dummy spitting crybaby.

Maybe so, but it's never stopped anyone in the past! He was the form half last season and, given he won MOS, must be reasonably popular with other players. In either case the point remains...