I would suggest it is somewhere between the two - the basic skills of some Leeds players is embarrassing for a pro player.

You cannot look at Leeds in isolation you need to consider the competition as a whole. Were Leeds any better in 2015 than 2014 not sure I saw a huge improvement in standard in fact it could be argued they went backwards but not as fast as everyone else. So winning everything one year and not winning the GF the previous year does not prove your point either way.

It could be argued that both statements were in fact true.

The OP is very unfair.

Fair weather supporters support their team wholeheartedly when they are doing well.

It would if it were the only club suffering in that way - but virtually every club has a significant injury list.

Fair point

Which clubs have suffered as badly as we have through missing players?

Let's start with Wigan - they are missing there starting FB, starting HB, starting hooker plus a host of other players, Hull KR had as many missing as we did if not more, Cas had 10 out when they played Huddersfield. That is before you talk about Saints.

So which ones have been as badly affected as Leeds over the course of the season to date

No it couldn't unless you were one of the people saying both those things and trying to backtrack your way out how contradictory they are.

The suggestion that Leeds weren't really any better in 2015 than in 2014, perhaps even went backwards is not only a prime example of this, but quite ridiculous.

I said neither but i do ? Where we currently are & i think the timing would be perfect to make more off/on field changes.
Also i always expected a tougher season this year it was obvious but i'll also say even with injuries/disruptions we should be performing better & adapted better in terms of shape etc.

Yes I agree and why I said criticism was pretty fair for the current period we're going through. I think 6th/7th place with maybe a W5/L5 record would be understandable in the circumstances.

And the timing could well be perfect to make changes. The 'big' one being moving on from McDermott....which might/probably will happen. Should remember it's only the 2nd week in April, I don't recall the departures of Powell, Smith and McClennen being decided or announced this early.

Not sure how early previous departures were decided prior to their oublic announcements tbh but its a fair point
Rumours and they are only rumours are that Mc.D will be moving on at the end of the season by his own choice.
Time will tell i just hope we can salvage some good performances & possibly a CC run.

I know if McDermott goes it most likely will be announced as a "mutual decision" and people will inevitably be dubious.....but you never know, he might genuinely think himself that he's gone as far as he can here.