We do have enough talent in the squad for the challenge cup, but we have had al year and it hasnt gone well. its the cup so anything can happen, IMO Leeds only chance (slim one) of silverwere is the CC

If, and it's looking like a big if, we beat Hull and get into the CC semi, then Brian has a chance to crew up the 'win two, lose two' sequence.

I think that the play-offs should be easily achievable, not because we're any good, but because there are at least 6 teams worse than us. I think we'll finish 5th or 6th. Doubt we'll make much progress in the play-offs, and the CC is a bit of a lottery, but we'd likely have to beat a top 4 team, not something we've excelled in this season

Still think we will finish 5th/6th?

5th is increasingly appearing to be a distant and unlikely prospect.

6th is easily achievable though. Leeds only have to finish ahead of SL rabble like Hull and Castleford.

The game against Hull will decide if Leeds finish above Hull - if they lose 7th is the best they can hope for

I don't agree with that because Hull define inconsistency, week in... week out.

The CC game will have a bigger bearing on who finishes above who in SL. I would suggest that the winner of the QF in two weeks time are more likely to finish below the loser of that CC game.

We have a hard run of fixtures including Leeds/Wigan/Cats/Wire so a defeat to us would not mean we would finish above you.

Leeds have 2 likely wins - Harlequins and Wakey, given they only have 3 days prep for Hull who have had a whole week I struggle to see them winning that, with Brough back at Huddersfield they will lose their. That leaves Salford A and Cas at H to decide where they finish

3 defeats in 11 games doesn't smack of inconsistancy to me, two of them losses to hudds and saints who both spanked leeds over the pitch

normally i would be confident of a win next week if it was any other team, but we alway seem to under-peform at leeds in the league even when we have been playing well

No!

In a word you could be correct

I personally think Leeds will finish 6th or 7th.

This isnt a bad return considering you had key players out at the start of the season, married to the fact you also have a pretty ordinary coach.

The more worrying things for Leeds fans would be if there was no light at the end of the tunnel
I think there is, as its not as if you are in your current predicament with a top class coach. Leeds therefore know that the task of replacing your coaching staff with more capable staff from down under would be sufficient to see you return to challenging for the top 4

Simply choosing the wrong coach can have a massive negative impact on a teams performances. Wigan and Wire being prime examples of how merely changing from a mediocre coaching setup to ones of quality, has within the space of a few years turned underachievers into champion sides.
I will personally be intrigued to see how Wigan do when Mcguire leaves, especially if they fail to recruit a top class Australasian coach.

If Leeds have any ambition they will be prioratising an Australian coach with NRL experience. Going British is IMO sadly an acceptance of failure.

Ow no they won't,

don't forget there's a warm welcome waiting for you in the super league cellar, was that front row almost 100 years old combined .

Well said. Hull are a prime example. Interesting that the hetheringtons have overseen the appointment of incapable British coaches. I doubt gary will stick with his for the next 3 seasons like his missus though