Agree leeds were crap, and I dont think the ref effected the result we didnt deserve to win but he still wasnt good.

Very simplistic. The reasons Leeds lost go a lot deeper than a bit of over-confidence.

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Nothing like being satisfied in one's delusion

the ref did a fine job today, Leeds have been exploiting the " flat pass " and sledging for years. Today they where not allowed to

Leeds were poor today and would have lost no matter who the referee was. However, I think Alibert is clearly out of his depth at this level, the fact that he had to be corrected by the linesman over the scrum from the kick off was embarassing.

The penalty against Cross was a line decision and could have gone either way.

At the end of the day haliburt did not influence Leeds shocking completion rate or missed tackles, that is down to the players, i agree KR did get the luck today that we needed but like previous threads have stated you will see Rhinos get beat on few occassions having scored 28 POINTS, time to stop blaming the refs and look at the problem deeper within the club, injuries for one. Anyway good luck for the rest of the season.

The best time to discuss inept officicials is after a convincing win or a trophy win because you always attract the usual dross that popcorn and the picture of the grapes posted.
Remember last year when Child was subject of a thread for being abysmal? the Wakey lot responded the same way as the HKR fans have yet after the Cas game and the Rhinos 2nd half all of a sudden they agree!
The inconsistency has to fall firmly at Cummings' door he just isn't up to getting officials to the required standard now they'll make mistakes as do the players ,coaches and fans etc etc but they are'nt/have'nt learnt from them and are making some shocking calls aided by equally inept touch judges.
Of course until it happens to other teams their fans will always come back with the predictable sour grapes etc etc and keith will have another thread to "burp his worm" over but the problem is definately Cummings imo.
P.s This in no way is to blame refs for our own poor efforts in certain games this year when we've deserved to lose nor is it an attempt to take the focus away from how pants we've been.

The knock on/drop out callw as one of the worst decisions ever seen in Super League

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FACT

Whichever way you look at it 2 KR tries came from blatant forward passes and I am not talking flat passes here but at least 2 to 3 yards forward. The knock on outside the KR line that resulted in a drop out and the scrum that was or wasn`t a KR feed were all bad mistakes by the ref whichever way the KR loyalists to Halibut want to argue it.
KR played well much better than they have been playing considering their league position it woud seem.
But lets face it our defence was cut open far too often our attacking options did not exist and our missed tackles were appaling.
Senior had a very poor game all round yet putting Watkins to LC is hardly the best option considering his defence as shown when they scored their try.
Maybe the Wigan came did take alot out of us it certainly took something out of Wigan.
To sack the coach now is not an option IMO
He needs to be given the season to prove himself with a fully fit squad even though we should with all respect beat HKR with the fit players in our squad.
Before we start playing flowing attacking rugby we should get our defence right first.
Rant over and yes I have covered about 3 topics in one rant but who cares it`s Sunday and it`s sunny.

We didn't get the rub of the green yesterday, but we've had it a fair few times in the past. Neither of those 2 passes last night were anything like as forward as Watkins' to Hardaker against Saints. Plus they're probably still evening it up after Tansey-gate at Millenium Magic!

Just to agree with frosties re the leeds performances this year !! absolute pants, but no side can play a competative match losing the pebnalty count 12-3, as BMD said no problem with the penalties given, but this is a two way street and what did Leed shave to do to get a penalty, the kr player would need to shoot a player first, and even the most biased kr fans should acknowledge that the penalty count was way too one sided for it to be taklen seriously as a fair performance from the freog.

But I have watchd that game today on sky and although we had some decisions against us for forward passes, at least the try's two & three for kr (Murrell. welham) came from forward passes which were not even marginal and very clear, yes kr had the luck and mainly the rub on saturday, but lets get real with these decisions, this is not sour grapes but fact.