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I just dropped Webb I thought Donald warranted a place in the team and Webb was the poorest on Saturday, if Clarkson is injured then Kirke/Pitts to come in.

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Clarkson adn Jjb won't play on saturday and i'd bring Ambler,Ali and Pitts in and drop Kirke tbh.

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Quote: rhinoms "drop Kirke tbh.'"


Wouldn't we all?

Will Bluey? Probably not.

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Quote: Sam Buca "Wouldn't we all?

Will Bluey? Probably not.'"

To be fair i think he's improved his form over recent weeks but like many was awfull on saturday and i just think Ambler needs to come in and will do a better props job than him.

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Quote: rhinoms "To be fair i think he's improved his form over recent weeks but like many was awfull on saturday and i just think Ambler needs to come in and will do a better props job than him.'"


I agree that he has picked up but not too much and nowhere near the standard he should be.

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Quote: Sam Buca "Wouldn't we all?

Will Bluey? Probably not.'"


Of course not...by now you must have realised he has his favourites and allows that "wanting to be one of the lads" to cloud his judgement.
Hence the persistent policy of also having Diskin spell Buderus from the bench when all rationailty should have told him long ago it has never worked ...and never will. It just disrupts the team.

Ambler (and Pitts) should play until the end of the season... certainly at least above Kirke and Diskin in the pecking order for a bench spot.

And for gawd's sake let's have Ali back too.

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Quote: nantwichexile "Of course not...by now you must have realised he has his favourites and allows that "wanting to be one of the lads" to cloud his judgement.
Hence the persistent policy of also having Diskin spell Buderus from the bench when all rationailty should have told him long ago it has never worked ...and never will. It just disrupts the team.

Ambler (and Pitts) should play until the end of the season... certainly at least above Kirke and Diskin in the pecking order for a bench spot.

And for gawd's sake let's have Ali back too.'"


I should also add (for those who might suggest I have a vendetta against their hero) Diskin would be a very good [ireserve[/i for Buderus (ditto McShane).....BUT only if it's for the full game. No more of this bluddy interchange nonsense.

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Quote: nantwichexile "And for gawd's sake let's have Ali back too.'"


I'm not so sure Ali has done anymore than Kirke to warrant a place in the team, in all honesty.

But I can see that what Ali could offer us on form far exceeds what Kirke does, and therefore worth the gamble.

Ambler should be a cast iron certainty to be in the side. The lad produced better performances than other indviduals anyway this season to warrant his place, and should not have been dropped when he was. Pitts also never let anyone down, and IMO was just starting to get a bit of form when he too was dropped.

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I agree Ambler should be given a run in the team. Not convinced about Pitts yet but he's gotta be better than Kirke.
Ali has to come in. Even if he's not fully fit as has been sugegsted, without Clarkson and JJB available he will surely have play.

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Ambler deserves his spot in the team. He took his earlier chances up very well, and when dropped was far out-playing some others. Jay Pitts, even on his debut, looked like he would produce big things. The lines he runs, and the tackles he puts in, along with his speed and off-loads, he just seems too good to drop for me....but unfortunately he hasn't been hazed yet so has fallen out of favour. I wonder if Kallum might get a chance also?

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Quote: west_leeds_rhino "Ambler deserves his spot in the team. He took his earlier chances up very well, and when dropped was far out-playing some others. Jay Pitts, even on his debut, looked like he would produce big things. The lines he runs, and the tackles he puts in, along with his speed and off-loads, he just seems too good to drop for me....but unfortunately he hasn't been hazed yet so has fallen out of favour. I wonder if Kallum might get a chance also?'"


Well said that man. icon_cheers.gif Pitts for whatever reason has found himself out of the inner circle of 'buddies' that Kirke has apparently ingratiated himself into. I'm sure Kirke is a great lad and seems likeable....but he is far from first 17 material on the regular basis he finds himself in.

Pitts deserves the chance before Kirke (and possibly Ablett, certainly on last Saturday's performance); second only to Ambler who should be a definite starter.

Would be good to see how Watkins goes in Senior's spot....Senior is still a threat on attack but his defensive positional play is getting worse epitomised at Wembley (or is it my imagination ?).

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Quote: nantwichexile "Well said that man.
At Wembley Senior's positioning on the left side of defence often gave Wire free yards because he was holding back and hedging as insurance against Rob Burrow getting run over. As it happened, Burrow was outstanding defensively but Senior obviously had either no confidence in him or was instructed not to commit early to his own man but to cover Burrow and allow yards but guarantee no immediate tries.

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Quote: craigizzard "At Wembley Senior's positioning on the left side of defence often gave Wire free yards because he was holding back and hedging as insurance against Rob Burrow getting run over. As it happened, Burrow was outstanding defensively but Senior obviously had either no confidence in him or was instructed not to commit early to his own man but to cover Burrow and allow yards but guarantee no immediate tries.'"


I couldn't decide if he was watching hall actually. Think the defence on that side looked a lot safer with smith in centre at the Cas game actually. And before I get shot, I'm not saying to put him there, just thought we looked tighter.

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Quote: craigizzard "At Wembley Senior's positioning on the left side of defence often gave Wire free yards because he was holding back and hedging as insurance against Rob Burrow getting run over. As it happened, Burrow was outstanding defensively but Senior obviously had either no confidence in him or was instructed not to commit early to his own man but to cover Burrow and allow yards but guarantee no immediate tries.'"


What was his excuse for all the games Burrow missed?

I mean he's done the exact same thing all season. I would suggest it's more a case of other players not having confidence in him, rather than the other way round.

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Quote: Gotcha "What was his excuse for all the games Burrow missed?

I mean he's done the exact same thing all season. I would suggest it's more a case of other players not having confidence in him, rather than the other way round.'"


Fair point. I was just addressing the Wembley reference from the previous post.

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