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Quote: Shabino "Broadbent’s hardly played, then thrown in against Hurrell. What did we expect? This should have been his 5th or 6th game starting. Think you’d see a different player. I can’t comment on specifics as only listened and seen highlights, but we need to stick with these young guys for rest of the year…'"


True and not writing him off, he was up against best team in comp but he still looked a looooong way off. Hopefully he’ll get there

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Ahh Tesco Building St Helens & Warrington's future Destroying Wigans past "Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower":



Quote: christopher "Bentley, oledski, Newman, handley, tetevano, maybe leeming, that’s about it.'"


I'm not a big fan of Oledski he always looks unfit to me? he was subbed today after 15mins?

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Quote: Shabino "Broadbent’s hardly played, then thrown in against Hurrell. What did we expect? This should have been his 5th or 6th game starting. Think you’d see a different player. I can’t comment on specifics as only listened and seen highlights, but we need to stick with these young guys for rest of the year…'"


Id have him over sutcliffe or briscoe every day of the week im certainly not writing him off at all.

I know you like Hurrell but he did absolutely nothing other than score that easy try, hell be out of that saints first team as doon as they have players back.

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Quote: Rommel "I'm not a big fan of Oledski he always looks unfit to me? he was subbed today after 15mins?'"


He’s been carrying an injury most of season so far plus he got a heavy knock tonight

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Quote: Rommel "I'm not a big fan of Oledski he always looks unfit to me? he was subbed today after 15mins?'"


He probably is playing injured, as weve no choice, he’s quality playing in a side lacking confidence and quality

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Quote: christopher "Id have him over sutcliffe or briscoe every day of the week im certainly not writing him off at all.

I know you like Hurrell but he did absolutely nothing other than score that easy try, hell be out of that saints first team as doon as they have players back.'"

Which of our players bar Newman could have scored the try Hurrell scored that easily?

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Quote: Rommel "Sky said Groin'"


I think they meant he’s been playing W4nk…

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Quote: Shabino "Which of our players bar Newman could have scored the try Hurrell scored that easily?'"


Everyone of them the defence was that poor, you may not really have got the best perspective if you listened on the radio, it really wasn’t anything remotely special at all

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Agree with much that has been said regarding the massive improvement in effort. The players put a shift in tonight and competed for much of the game without ever looking like they would win it. They deserve credit for that.
The lack of threat with the ball has been a problem all season and tonight was no different. Saints' line speed was as quick as I've seen, but a few well placed chip overs for Tindall to chase in that 1st half would have made them think twice about moving up so quick. It was disappointing that neither halfback at least saw the opportunity and asked a few more questions. We really are clueless in attack. With Dwyer back for the Huddersfield game I would put Leeming at halfback. We are going to be back to the same position as we were in last season, asking players to fill in at halfback, which is criminal after signing 2 new halfbacks on a sizeable part of the Salary cap.

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Quote: christopher "Everyone of them the defence was that poor, you may not really have got the best perspective if you listened on the radio, it really wasn’t anything remotely special at all'"

I’ve seen the try on highlights. Nothing special and looked really easy. However, good players make things look easy……

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A few thoughts. We at least tried in defence, and that should be the easiest thing to sort out. We still have poor technique but the effort and communication in defence seems to have improved from last week.

We are desperately poor with the ball, have no shape and as we don’t go forward quickly enough the lack of shape means the halves always look poor. Sutcliffe again proved he’s not a half, or even a rugby league player?

The kids, Broadbent, Tindall, Gannon and I’d still include Walker because of the time he’s missed, will make mistakes but need to play to learn. We have to persevere with them, the likes of Briscoe and Sutcliffe aren’t going to get us out of this.

We need a new Head Coach urgently, someone has got to put some structure into the play and work on individual skill levels and decision making.

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Quote: Shabino "I’ve seen the try on highlights. Nothing special and looked really easy. However, good players make things look easy……'"


Sorry shabs, it was nothing special whatsoever, he was then utterly anonymous apart from a knock on his next play.

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Agree re the kids. There's zero point playing Briscoe and Sutcliffe. They're terrible players who will not get better. Broadbent and Tindall may not be ready yet but at least they will get better. They may never be that good, but can they realistically be any worse than some of the older players who have had years to work on their game and yet don't know how to pass or position in defence? Its really coming back to bite us that Agar never gave enough chances to some of these lads, preferring instead to shuffle the same losers into different positions.

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Quote: christopher "Sorry shabs, it was nothing special whatsoever, he was then utterly anonymous apart from a knock on his next play.'"

Fair play. I’m not saying it was special , but I don’t see our centres scoring that try. If you compare the two back lines on paper it looks like a professional vs an Amateur side….

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Quote: Shabino "Fair play. I’m not saying it was special , but I don’t see our centres scoring that try. If you compare the two back lines on paper it looks like a professional vs an Amateur side….'"


Hurrell wouldnt have scored that try for us either because the opposition defence wouldn’t have been as bad.

I wanted Hurrell to stay by the way! But he’s only in that saints side because of injuries that’s how far behind them we are.

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