Smith obviously has to front up for that loss, but we need to look beyond him at some of the individual 'efforts' by senior players. We had no halfbacks again, so to have a chance of even competing the forwards have to have a big crack. None of them did, and our quite experienced threequarter line looked like an amateur team as well.

The scale of the defeat says a lot about the way the squad has fallen apart. There are still a fair few in that team who won't be here next season, and a bunch more who won't be first choice if they stay. I'd imagine team spirit is almost non-existent now, and the season just can't end fast enough.

I'd hope we get some kind of response next week, but the senior players gave up a week ago. Unfortunately we have no depth at all to make changes. Smith could pick Edgell etc but unless the senior pros stand up the 'experience' will be pointless aside from getting battered in front of a crowd. His choices boil down to just playing as close to the same 17 and hope some sort of pride in performance kicks in, or picking a bunch of kids who'll at least try. Either way another big defeat looks likely.

I agree but nobody else does given the reaction to a similar post I made early in nthe season!

Wehave the most expensive tickets in superleague to watch the worst team

JJB was awful as coach. He was probably better than Agar, but as Agar admitted that the team had stopped listening to him that's not saying much. We won two, drew one and lost three games on JJB's watch, with the two wins being against Toulouse and KR, who were far weaker than this year. Smith may not have done well this year but its a ridiculous re-writing of history to suggest he wasn't responsible for the turnaround last season.

Yeah, but you have a smashing stadium

Anyone that didn't have a bet on Catalans -24 was a fool, talk about easy money!!

Donaldson got a penalty for a high shot - seems to be his only attribute. How can a player with so little to offer get a contract extension at an elite club?

We have far bigger problems than giving Donaldson a contract extension

Go back and re read, I was posting during and after the game. Not gonna disappear like you do after a win

We have no money to rebuild to squad as we are mortgaged to the hilt for 40 years with 2 new stands, and season ticket sales will dwindle now too.

Watched the game at the pub and even with the beer and other distractions it was a terrible watch. Sometimes in sport, and in life, you have to take your medicine. We have had two doses against Wigan and Catalans and we'll be in for a 3rd next week. We're about to hit rock bottom. The remaining incomings for next year will have to absolutely top class to get us moving in the right direction again.

I hope You’re right about the rock bottom and the incomings. If you’re not on the latter, you’re probably not on the former either.