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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "It was the final non-pass that contributed to the loss - Newman was out of position for two of the tries also. When a small FB can push you clean off your feet something is wrong. The second try in the second half he completely misread the play. He is a massive talent but he is far from the finish article and perhaps he need to stop believing the hype and get his head down and work on improving the obvious flaws in his game.

He isn't helped when he plays in a team with no other attacking threat and a coach who is using the team as a coaching improvement tool. Gannon at 6 is plain bonkers. Martin in centre - Stevie Wonder can see this doesn't work. Olpherts is a guaranteed to make a key mistake - and did. Sezer isn't interested. Macdonald once again offered nothing showing the big gap between the Championship and SL.

Holroyd was a stand out player for me - non of the others had anything but average games and that must be a concern - are these players really up for a fight when the chips are down and does the squad has the depth of quality required to compete with the better teams and is it coached properly to achieve that'"



That's all a bit over board.
We've gone toe to toe with one of the top teams and just lost out.
Some key mistakes cost us, but it often does.
We fell away in the second half and that's the main concern that we need to work on.
But I was impressed with the first half.

I agree regarding Gannon.
And we all know that Awfultrts isn't up to this level.
Unfortunately, neither is Tindall.
But we were hampered with Austin and Handley out. We didn't have many options.
FWIW, I would have given Hooley another go at FB and played Myler in the halves.

It's all been said about Harry and he needs to learn.
But slightly in his defence, Myler had over-run the chance at the end.

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Quote: Simmo71 "That's all a bit over board.
We've gone toe to toe with one of the top teams and just lost out.
Some key mistakes cost us, but it often does.
We fell away in the second half and that's the main concern that we need to work on.
But I was impressed with the first half.

I agree regarding Gannon.
And we all know that Awfultrts isn't up to this level.
Unfortunately, neither is Tindall.
But we were hampered with Austin and Handley out. We didn't have many options.
FWIW, I would have given Hooley another go at FB and played Myler in the halves.

It's all been said about Harry and he needs to learn.
But slightly in his defence, Myler had over-run the chance at the end.'"


Any decent player could have made that pass including Newman - Myler was still behind him at the crucial point. Making that pass never entered his head. Its all about personal glory for Newman.

He should have played Sinfield or Myler in the halves - for me Sezer offers very little and doesn't seem someone you would want in the trenches.

Martin in the centre has been shown to be in effective. We bought Macdonald as a centre play him there - if you have to play Olpharts put him on the wing. Agree re. Tindall.

Oldeski isn't allowed to be criticised on here but at the moment he is offering very little especially when compared to Holroyd.

That game was there for the winning but as soon as Wigan upped the anti - Leeds couldn't handle it and that must be a concern.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Any decent player could have made that pass including Newman - Myler was still behind him at the crucial point. Making that pass never entered his head. Its all about personal glory for Newman.

He should have played Sinfield or Myler in the halves - for me Sezer offers very little and doesn't seem someone you would want in the trenches.

Martin in the centre has been shown to be in effective. We bought Macdonald as a centre play him there - if you have to play Olpharts put him on the wing. Agree re. Tindall.

Oldeski isn't allowed to be criticised on here but at the moment he is offering very little especially when compared to Holroyd.

That game was there for the winning but as soon as Wigan upped the anti - Leeds couldn't handle it and that must be a concern.'"


Just to put some perspective on this since Smith has taken over the scores against Wigan total. 116 v 58

Wigan haven’t been able to handle Leeds but it was their turn this time it happens.

We lost a tight game which we could have win if harry had made a better decision.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Any decent player could have made that pass including Newman - Myler was still behind him at the crucial point. Making that pass never entered his head. Its all about personal glory for Newman.

He should have played Sinfield or Myler in the halves - for me Sezer offers very little and doesn't seem someone you would want in the trenches.

Martin in the centre has been shown to be in effective. We bought Macdonald as a centre play him there - if you have to play Olpharts put him on the wing. Agree re. Tindall.

Oldeski isn't allowed to be criticised on here but at the moment he is offering very little especially when compared to Holroyd.

That game was there for the winning but as soon as Wigan upped the anti - Leeds couldn't handle it and that must be a concern.'"


Yet last week the reverse was true, to an even greater degree if we're looking solely at the final scoreboard. The game yesterday could have gone either way but the better team on the day won. There's plenty to work on of course, as there always is, but we're nowhere near as bad as some would make out.

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We’re out of the cup at the first time of asking for the third year on the bounce and we’re 8th in the league with a 50/50 win/loss record.

How would you say it’s going at the moment?

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Quote: batleyrhino "We’re out of the cup at the first time of asking for the third year on the bounce and we’re 8th in the league with a 50/50 win/loss record.

How would you say it’s going at the moment?'"


All depends on how you look at it.

We lost narrowly in a good knock out game. We’re 4 points off second place when not playing consistently, we’ve had some great wins and some poor losses.

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The over reaction is getting tedious.
We lost a close, fairly entertaining game to a better side. Had a chance to win it with 5 minutes to go.
It seems if we don't win we are doomed according to most on here and tbf it's getting very boring.
Same as the get a centre, fb, hb. Never mind contracts and salary cap, if I stamp my feet enough I might get what I want.
Got to be honest, it's doing my head in.

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Quote: LeedsLurch "The over reaction is getting tedious.
We lost a close, fairly entertaining game to a better side. Had a chance to win it with 5 minutes to go.
It seems if we don't win we are doomed according to most on here and tbf it's getting very boring.
Same as the get a centre, fb, hb. Never mind contracts and salary cap, if I stamp my feet enough I might get what I want.
Got to be honest, it's doing my head in.'"


Agreed.

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this is a forum. People have different opinions. it rarely goes over the top. in fact it's a very well used board.
if you don't like it I suggest you take a break or find a board where everyone agrees with your opinion

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Quote: LeedsLurch "The over reaction is getting tedious.
We lost a close, fairly entertaining game to a better side. Had a chance to win it with 5 minutes to go.
It seems if we don't win we are doomed according to most on here and tbf it's getting very boring.
Same as the get a centre, fb, hb. Never mind contracts and salary cap, if I stamp my feet enough I might get what I want.
Got to be honest, it's doing my head in.'"


Don’t forget ‘x’ young player should be playing every week, as we’re not bringing through enough of our own young players. Ignoring the fact that our team in general is very young and the likes of Holroyd, O’connor, Gannon and even Smith and Newman have cemented themselves as first choice players. With Tindall, McDonnell (not Leeds academy but still young) and Johnson all getting game time.

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Quote: LeedsLurch "The over reaction is getting tedious.
We lost a close, fairly entertaining game to a better side. Had a chance to win it with 5 minutes to go.
It seems if we don't win we are doomed according to most on here and tbf it's getting very boring.
Same as the get a centre, fb, hb. Never mind contracts and salary cap, if I stamp my feet enough I might get what I want.
Got to be honest, it's doing my head in.'"


Or the "rebuild" job that gets trotted out every year for the past 8 years...

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Quote: tad rhino "this is a forum. People have different opinions. it rarely goes over the top. in fact it's a very well used board.
if you don't like it I suggest you take a break or find a board where everyone agrees with your opinion'"


And we’re giving our opinion.

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The board really would be a boring place if we all agreed about everything. I want us to push as hard as we can, strain every sinew to be the best possible. I don’t see anything wrong with that. I also don’t see it happening enough on the pitch at the moment.

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Quote: batleyrhino "The board really would be a boring place if we all agreed about everything. I want us to push as hard as we can, strain every sinew to be the best possible. I don’t see anything wrong with that. I also don’t see it happening enough on the pitch at the moment.'"


I get that and i want the same but it’s unrealistic IMO.

People can post what they want that is the point of this place, however it does get tiresome reading the constant negativity then in some cases radio silence when we win.

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it also gets tiresome when all you get is cheerleading from some.
works both ways

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