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I don't think O'Connor will be banned but sounds like Ackers maybe missing due to injury.
A real mixed bag again last night. Leighs structured attack in the 1st half was excellent. Showed us how it can be done. We still look lost at times when we do manage to get the field position to apply pressure. It may take more time to gel but the lack of cohesion is a concern.
What can't be denied is the ability to keep believing. They keep going and there looks to be great spirit amongst the players. We look a fit team aswell and are finishing games pretty strongly especially considering the amount of defending we have to do.
Oledski had a great game considering the injury concern. Miller looks a dangerous runner and although he has a few errors in him he can beat a man.
RS mentioned that we were a bit weak in defence in the 1st half especially at marker. Qualities Bentley brings to to the team. Whether you like him or not his workrate from marker is excellent and was missed last night.

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Frawley with a great try, showed he can be a runner.
His kicking definitely needs improvement though, doesn’t seem to find space between the back three

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Terrific win. Battled well and showed great spirit. A lot of improvement needed though but it’s about points on the board at this stage and that’s a tricky place to go.

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Well, what do I know about Rugby League....
First half was dreadful, much like most of last year.
But unlike last year, we are finding a way to win.
A good habit to have.

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If we can keeping on picking up wins when not particularly playing well (for the full 80) then that’s a huge improvement from recent seasons.

Saints losing this week was probably the worst outcome for us icon_smile.gif

Should be a cracking game next week, Salford showed last night that saints are lacking a bit of pace and their outside backs are vulnerable in Defence.

We aren’t going to ‘out structure’ saints i can see is trying to play around them like Salford did.

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Bruised shin for Akers, so hopefully he can recover for next week if not banned.

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Winnable assuming we have a hooker. I've not watched saints yet this year but the faster ptb won't be something they're over fond of, I wouldn't have thought. Maybe Cam Smith could do a job if Ack and JOC are both out.

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Quote: Clearwing "Winnable assuming we have a hooker. I've not watched saints yet this year but the faster ptb won't be something they're over fond of, I wouldn't have thought. Maybe Cam Smith could do a job if Ack and JOC are both out.'"


Think we’d see Bentley named as hooker but in reality I think a few players would cover dummy half throughout the game (frawley, miller, smith)

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I don’t think Saints are guaranteed anything this year. They have a couple of worldly players but they aren’t dominant any more. I think they’re back in the pack with the other sides like Leeds and maybe Wigan out in front.

Would be much happier with Fus and Lisone back for this one but the Saints game, early as it is in the season, looks a really big one.

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I fully expect us to have Ackers, O'Connor and Sangare banned next week.
Possibly Handley for scoring too many tries.
And no doubt Saints will successfully appeal Percival's ban.

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Ackers needs to watch his tackle technique, he goes high/over neck at times and it feels like it’s a matter of time with him.

O’Connor was a bit daft a couple of times but he does add great energy.

Bentley in at 9 isn’t ideal but not the worst result either. Hopefully Ackers will be fit and not banned.

I don’t know about anyone else but I just want to see our best 17 against theirs and a fair contest.

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I thought it was a really pleasing win on Friday. That is another game we would have lost last year, said that a few times already haven’t we.
Seen a number of posts saying that way of playing isn’t sustainable, not sure I agree. You need to win as many games as possible and you need to play different ways in different games to win.
The main difference I see with Leigh is that they only really look like scoring close to the line, they have a number of lovely, well executed shift plays that they scored from. Those plays were brilliant plays, but teams normally sharpen up to shift plays as a game progresses.
Now we at present don’t have those shift plays, however Leigh have 3 halfbacks all with nice pass selections skills (O’Brien is a halfback playing full back in my eyes). Also 2 of that 3 have played together last year.
We have the ability to score from deep, from trick plays, from mid length line breaking, we have some power close to the line, some short kicking plays but we don’t really have the shift play options. I think those will come as our spine plays together more and we get used to each other. I would say teaching the shift stuff is a lot easier than the other off the cuff stuff we have. The shift plays is almost pure coaching, the other stuff is mindset and skills.
I am happy with where we are, we aren’t complete in terms of a Squad, don’t have a fully formed set of game plans yet. But we have won 3, been close in every game, not got rolled down the middle and scored some lovely points.

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I agree but only up to a certain point. Our attack from deep or from open play is great; but on its own it hasn't seen us top four tries in any game yet. Against any sort of committed side that puts us in shoot out territory. And while we've won 3 from every game's been a battle. We'll be a genuine top drawer side when those world class scores are the ones killing games off, not merely gaining us a slight edge in arm wrestles.

That said, I definitely don't want the entertainment value to be sacrificed to any Ian Watson -type vision.

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Quote: christopher "Think we’d see Bentley named as hooker but in reality I think a few players would cover dummy half throughout the game (frawley, miller, smith)'"


Surely if Ackers and O'Connor are out, we bring back Johnson if we can?

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Quote: Clearwing "I agree but only up to a certain point. Our attack from deep or from open play is great; but on its own it hasn't seen us top four tries in any game yet. Against any sort of committed side that puts us in shoot out territory. And while we've won 3 from every game's been a battle. We'll be a genuine top drawer side when those world class scores are the ones killing games off, not merely gaining us a slight edge in arm wrestles.

That said, I definitely don't want the entertainment value to be sacrificed to any Ian Watson -type vision.'"

Hopefully, for the sake of the competition, arm wrestles are something we'll have to get used too. We've played some strong teams so far; Salford & Catalans only defeat came against us, KR are clearly going to be good, and Leigh at their place are no mugs. I think if we'd come up against a Cas, London or Hull we might have scored a few more. All that said, the bar is raised considerably on Friday and we are going to have to play well for far longer periods to get a win.

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