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| Can't wait for Gawwy's interview if Sam does sign .I would like to see Rory Bremner do Gawwy
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "Oh dear! if it's from somebody's Dad it all starts to look a bit flaky
We did seem to get quite a bit of info on here via Gareth Ellis's Dad at one time
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| Quote: Middleton_Loiner "Sorry I didn't mean to come across as being funny with you, I really wasn't.
If we look at what the situation 'seems' to be
I'm with you all the way on the logic. Sam has a right to be ed off at the way he has been treated by the media and ex union players. IMO he did a good job and in fact the cause of the England problems were the very experienced England players giving away penalties and making errors and in the end not being good enough.
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| Had a little look on a souths forum they seem to think Sam is "coming home" And they have the cap space for him.
Would love for us to get Sam, even if it's just for a year but I can't see it. I hope I'm wrong though.
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| Quote: heisenberg "Had a little look on a souths forum they seem to think Sam is "coming home" And they have the cap space for him.
Would love for us to get Sam, even if it's just for a year but I can't see it. I hope I'm wrong though.'"
They might say they have Cap Space, but thinking you have something and actually having something are 2 different things.
The Australian Media seem to think otherwise.
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| Quote: heisenberg "Had a little look on a souths forum they seem to think Sam is "coming home" And they have the cap space for him.'"
Think this is what it hinges on. I do think he'll be starting 2016 as a RL player and he'll obviously be a Souths player again one year, it's just a question of whether they can make it happen in 2016 or 2017 with regards to their SC. If it's the latter year it opens up the door for us to get him for 12 months.
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| I might be wrong but I don't think Sam has won a club honor in the UK .His brother Luke has got a SL ring Sam might want one too or a CC winners medal.
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| Quote: lionarmour87 "I might be wrong but I don't think Sam has won a club honor in the UK .His brother Luke has got a SL ring Sam might want one too or a CC winners medal.'"
Yes your right he was unlucky enough to play for Bradford on their downward spiral
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| Quote: lionarmour87 "I might be wrong but I don't think Sam has won a club honor in the UK .His brother Luke has got a SL ring Sam might want one too or a CC winners medal.'"
That's correct. Only made his debut in the summer of 2006 (against us at Headingley) so missed out on Bradford's last hurrah with the 2005 GF. Not even a final to speak of let alone a win. Would imagine having a crack at appearing in a SL GF and a Wembley Cup Final would appeal to him and we are in the WCC next year. The Burgess twins have just signed new contracts with Souths so all is looking happy there in terms of Family Burgess despite Luke's departure.
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| Where is Luke going? I know he is not (never was) wanted at Brookie.
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| Quote: sgtwilko "Where is Luke going? I know he is not (never was) wanted at Brookie.'"
He joined Manly at the beginning of this year
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| Just to add! Whatever is going on and how realistic it is re Burgess I don't know......But
You can smell the fear on the Pies board. They are $hitting it at the thought of us getting the big fella.
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| Quote: TOMCAT "He joined Manly at the beginning of this year'"
Cheers, but I know that, he was never wanted a Brookvale, it was a board signing that the coaching staff were not consulted on. Fulton & Barrett told Burgess he wasn't wanted in 2016. My understanding is that he doesn't have a club. I thought he had a 1 year deal at Manly?
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still under contract for 2016 according to www.zerotackle.com/nrl/rugby-lea ... iFTeIk8.97 but with barrett taking over he may not be wanted but with getting released by rabbitts for fighting in usa his may struggle and could end up back in super league. depends if he minds playing 2nd grade rugby
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still under contract for 2016 according to www.zerotackle.com/nrl/rugby-lea ... iFTeIk8.97 but with barrett taking over he may not be wanted but with getting released by rabbitts for fighting in usa his may struggle and could end up back in super league. depends if he minds playing 2nd grade rugby
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| I may be in a minority, but I'm really not sure Leeds should sign Burgess even if he wants to.
Firstly it would only be for one year. Souths might struggle to fit him under the cap for 2016 but they could easily free up space for 2017. If he comes back to RL he will want to go back to Souths (the prodigal son stuff would be absolutely nauseating BTW). I think if he really wants to return to RL Souths will do anything they can to sign him for 2016 anyway.
Secondly Leeds' success - typified this year - has been based on a team ethos that has been built over a decade but could easily get destroyed in less than a year. Burgess would no doubt be a 'marquee' player, meaning he'd smash Leeds' wage structure. That could seriously upset players who've been offered more elsewhere but chose to stay because of the club ethos.
Burgess has also shown that for him its all about Sam Burgess. He played up the Burgess clan cobblers at Souths but immediately his head got turned by the thought of starring in the RUWC he left the country - despite all the garbage about it being his dream to play with his brothers and have all his family close.
I'm really not sure I'd want Sam around the younger players in the squad - would anyone trade a better chance of winning things next year for the loss of the likes of Watkins afterwards?
If Leeds could sign Burgess within their wage structure and make clear to him that its Sam Burgess that would need to fit in at Leeds and not the other way round then it may be worth a punt. But I'd be careful what you wish for.
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