Didn't say you weren't allowed Gareth.

and Michael Smith ...(iirc)

12 Points conceded during his sin binning and getting Burrow killed was a very, very important contribution to our defeat.

Had Bailey committed either of those he would've been crucified on here.

i like to think I am fair handed with praise and criticism and dole both out regardless of reputation so, yes, I think peacock major factor behind our defeat.

I think Bailey is certainly worth his place in the squad as a rotation prop.

Peacocks ill discipline is a problem. Not just his recent punch ups but he does tend to get penalised for high shots fairly regularly. His pass to Burrow was a poor play but a great spot by the Manly 2nd rower who hit him with what appeared to me at the time a fair hit(not seen any replays). That said what he brings to the team far outweighs any negatives.
My point was though that we were up against a far superior team on the night who were a joy to watch a times. IMO with Burrow fully fit for 80 mins and Peacock not in the bin the result would have been the same.

You're right I suspect but those incidents involving Peacock didn't help.

I just think its' indicative of this board and our fans that this barely warrants any negative comment (of course, most of the time he doesn't) yet bailey is hung out to dry.

I was saying this towards the back end of last season when Peacock looked to be shattered by McLennan's insistence on having him on the park for 70 minutes a game. What footwork he had has gone, his offload game has gone and he generally looks like he's having to make a massive effort to drag his body around the field at times.

I'll stand back and put the tin helmet on for the replies, but the current Jamie Peacock is a shadow of the player in his first season at Leeds. I'll give it another season tops before he ends up a shell of his former self like Fielden.

If Bailey had shown the rank indiscipline Peacock has this season he would have got slaughtered on here.

Peacock is not on top form but we are only 4 games into this season, IMO his first year at Leeds was his worst so far.

JP was the only one taking the fight to Manly on Sunday-On a side note the pre-math entertainment was shocking.Thou that singers microphone not working was a highlight.

Who was the girl group?

They were quite a distance from us, and all we could work out was that it wasn't Girls Aloud, and probably not The Saturdays.