I think you are struggling to differentiate between players individual and team. I repeat, this is the worst team I have seen in that time.

But by the way, we have some very poor players in this current team.

I would still say the 96 side was far worse, i think the 2001 side under dean lance was pretty dire as well but that may be just how bad lance was and it took another 2 full seasons to recover from that spell.

But look at the competition those years. They were far better than the current one.

2001 side included: Toni Carrol, Iestyn? Senior, Sinfield, JJB

This is the worst Leeds team I've ever seen - even when everyone is fit. It's a team game and the team is awful. Sutcliffe makes Dave Hesselwood and Mark Massa look awesome, as for the forwards I'm dreaming of the glory days of Gary Price and Andy Sykes.
Has Dave Furner ever got a job on. McDermott's protestations after his sacking look even more ridiculous now.

Fortunately I think both Sinfield and Furner know its a rebuild job, Sinfield even mentioned it in his latest post match interview. I don't for one second think Sinfield thinks its job done if we get through these Middle 8s

Personally I will be happy A. if we get through the middle 8s with a game to spare and B. if next year we just look like a more complete side, I'm not expecting us to be back up in the top4 for at least 2 years and I'm fine with that as long as we look to be heading in the right direction.

I was a big fan of McDermott but in hindsight I will say I think he should have gone after last years GF, he deserved the benefit of the doubt in 2016 but a plan should have been put in place through ought 2017 for 2018 without him. I also still think Sinfield is the right guy for the DOR job.

The 96 side and this both plumb similar depths for me. If - if - we beat Salford, TO & TWP then I might be forced to conclude that this one's the shade better of the two. But only by a fanny hair.

The 96 side was in completely different circumstances to this, and as a result of that, this is really a worse team.

Also needed Dean bell to come out of retirement to beat Paris

Could we really see Sir Kev or burrow doing the same

It's like ''the good old days'' syndrome this, only in reverse

If you think this team is s*** then you can't have been around back in....

Could we really see Sir Kev or burrow doing the same

A one legged, half fit, half pace, Sinfield is still a million times better than Sutcliffe and would probably take us to the wins we need, even now.

Coming second in league many a time. Being turned over by the Pieeaters. Losing many semi finals. Only 1 Yorkshire cup success. However at least they did not give up with 20 minutes to go each week