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| Quote: The Magic Wand "Brilliant Loz, stand still, thats the spirit!!
Who did St helens sign close season?
They lost Fozzard and Talau and signed Puletua?
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| Quote: Kifaru "Who did St helens sign close season?
They lost Fozzard and Talau and signed Puletua?'"
Yes but they have cleverly moved Gilmour into the centres who is a better player in that position than Talau who had started to slide and have a better, younger more mobile pack.
Eastwood and some of the youngsters also look a better than the options that Leeds have (look at the Leeds reserves - there is nothing there).
Fozzard had never been more than a decent squad player who has been more than adequately replaced by Puletua.
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| Quote: Kifaru "Who did St helens sign close season?
They lost Fozzard and Talau and signed Puletua?'"
St Helens have a First Team Squad of 30 Players, Plus 3 players loaned out in Super League:
Steve Tyrer, Matty Smith (Celtic Crusaders)
Scott Moore (Huddersfield Giants)
Leeds Rhinos have a First Team Squad of 24 Players...
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| Quote: The Joker® "St Helens have a First Team Squad of 30 Players, Plus 3 players loaned out in Super League
So quantity means quality then?
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| Quote: Kifaru "So quantity means quality then?'"
No it means they have more strength in depth and a variety of players to call upon who can fit into the team with ease and do a good job in Super League...
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| Quote: The Joker® "No it means they have more strength in depth and a variety of players to call upon who can fit into the team with ease and do a good job in Super League...'"
Having 30 players doesnt mean strength in depth. The extra players may or may not be [i[/ie.
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| Quote: Kifaru "Having 30 players doesnt mean strength in depth. The extra players may or may not be [ipoop[/ie.'"
Hence why i wrote
Quote: Kifaru "No it means they have more strength in depth and a variety of players to call upon who can fit into the team with ease and do a good job in Super League...'"
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| Quote: The Joker® "Hence why i wrote'"
But if they havent been called on how do you know they are good enough.
Quantity does not mean quality.
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| Quote: Kifaru "But if they havent been called on how do you know they are good enough.
Quantity does not mean quality.'"
Said the Bishop to the Choirboy.
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| Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "The point is Richie he also asked you some question which given you did not answer - not unlike the points I made above - obviously had you on the back foot - it is obvious if you have a bigger squad you can rest and rotate why did we do so well in 2004 - Smith hardly fielded the same team 2 weeks running - it is great to develop players if they have the ability to be developed if they don't you either replace with the appropriate quality or as in Leeds' case you go backwards simple really - this seem a concept that is pretty lost on you!!!'"
Tad was all over the place last night, and couldn't keep a consistent line of questioning or opinion.
Look: We have achieved success in the past by use of a big squad and player rotation, and we have also achieved success with a smaller active squad a more consistent lineup. We have also seen failure come about with both a thin squad, and failure come about with repeated rotation of a larger squad.
Part of our problem this year has been we're disorganised in our RHS defence, possibly because we have used four different players at centre on that side. Perhaps less options for that position might have even helped us.
The real point, which would have got to if you could have answered the questions, is that it isn't the size of the quality of the squad that's hurting us. Measure the talent of the squad we have available, and it's clearly better than twelve teams in the league, and a close call on the last.
The question is, why aren't they playing like it?
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| Quote: Richie "Tad was all over the place last night, and couldn't keep a consistent line of questioning or opinion.
Look
I reckon this has something to do with it rlhttp://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t
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| Quote: Dave Heron's Moustache "In fairness it was obvious that Tad meant "not replaced" as in the way you describe it - not replaced with equal or better quality. I actually didn't get what you were attempting last night, I don't think anyone would be daft enough to suggest that we physically don't have the same number of human beings in the squad as we had last year.'"
If Tad had played along, we'd have seen that replacements don't always need to come from external signings.
There are still many that think any player leaving, for whatever reason, must be replaced by an external signing. Leaves you wondering what the acedemy is for.
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| Quote: Richie "If Tad had played along, we'd have seen that replacements don't always need to come from external signings.
There are still many that think any player leaving, for whatever reason, must be replaced by an external signing. Leaves you wondering what the acedemy is for.'"
Yes because the world famous Leeds conveyor belt of up and coming stars is really turning them out, have you seen the reserves this year, they are criminally poor.
But hey, in your world lets throw them in anyway.
That reminds me, next time I am asked to headhunt a Senior Manager I will bring forward a YTS.
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| Quote: Kifaru "But if they havent been called on how do you know they are good enough.
Quantity does not mean quality.'"
I never said it does...
Youngsters like Kyle Eastmond,Chris Dean, Gareth Frodsham, Gary Wheeler, Tom Armstrong, Matty Ashurst, Andrew Dixon and Jonny Lomax have all played in the St Helens First Team this season and haven't looked out of place also Jacob Emmitt but i don't know how he performed...
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| Quote: Richie "If Tad had played along, we'd have seen that replacements don't always need to come from external signings.
There are still many that think any player leaving, for whatever reason, must be replaced by an external signing. Leaves you wondering what the acedemy is for.'"
I completely agree.
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