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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "A Grand Final week is very different when you have a Sinfield, a Peacock, a Lueluai, a Senior, an Ali, a Webb etc in your team.

This Leeds team is a pale shadow of that. We saw that with the performance in the one true big game so far the cup semi.

Yes weve been to Grand Finals before. Weve got the reputation and aura of winners on the biggest stage but this team doesnt have the ability.

Weve no structure, no moves, no pace in key areas, our middle is soft, weve no size in the back row, no impact off the bench.

We might reach Old Trafford because we take some beating at Headingley but the team has too many failings for me to win the competiton. Cas couldve rattled 60 or 70 past us Fri if they hadnt put the cue on the rack just after HT.

The coach they have is far superior. They prepare better, they are a far superior team at this moment it pains me to say.

1 hour before kick their kickers come out with Ryan Sheridan and practice various kicks. Kicking 40/20s, attacking kicks. We dont bother.

The difference in attacking between the teams is stark and clear for all to see. They attack at pace with bodies in motion, dummy runners everywhere. We are pedestrian with no set plays. Their wingers get walk ins every week due to the runners inside them. Our wingers never get the same chances and are used as extra props.

Id love us to win at Old Trafford but i fear we are nowhere good enough to beat the teams we would have to beat.

This team isnt the team that won previous finals.'"


Spot on post.

Said more or less the same thing earlier this season after we were walloped by Cas.

There has been a sea change and we are still out there heads in the sand to it.

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I don't buy the Cas will try ensure Leeds play Wigan theory as that will probably leave them playing Hull who they have struggled against all year.
I think they'd rather play Wigan with home advantage as they've done well against them, knowing that Leeds go well generally against Hull (semi-final apart).
They'd then fancy their chances of putting a big score on us at OT or a weary Hull either way.
That's what I'd go for if I was them anyway.

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Personally I'd rather avoid Wigan, but that's because I dislike losing to them so much. Conversely, there is no-one I like beating more.

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Leeds have been pedestrian for a long time with ball in hand and if you look carefully it's not a recent thing. For years we have relied on scoring in open play. As soon as we get the ball within 30 meters of the line we struggle to come up with anything imaginative. When Cuthbertson came on board it was a breath of fresh air but other teams have quickly cottoned on. We are also slow react when the tide turns against us and become our own worst enemy. We are also very clueless when it comes to a game plan against an organised team with stand out players who can control games.

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Quote: RhinoDan "I don't buy the Cas will try ensure Leeds play Wigan theory as that will probably leave them playing Hull who they have struggled against all year.
I think they'd rather play Wigan with home advantage as they've done well against them, knowing that Leeds go well generally against Hull (semi-final apart).
They'd then fancy their chances of putting a big score on us at OT or a weary Hull either way.
That's what I'd go for if I was them anyway.'"

Agree with that matey.

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How about this for opening up the end of the season? https://www.castlefordtigers.com/article.php?id=5645
How about this for opening up the end of the season? https://www.castlefordtigers.com/article.php?id=5645


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Can Cas still win the GF without Gale then?

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I'd say yes, but any RL fan should hope he makes it back for the end of the year.

Probably the most shocking thing for me about our 'attack' is just how dreadful we are at setting up our threequarters. We've got Hall on one wing who just needs half a yard near the line, and Watkins on the other who needs the ball in space. Do that and our wingers should score a shedload of tries. As it is for two years running all our wingers combined have scored way less than one Cas winger. Its not the only measure, but for me its an indicator of how we aren't even playing to what should be relative strengths.

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I think Gale will likely be back for the play offs and i hope he is TBH. That said i think it would be unlikely they win it without him.The aren't a one man team but he is so important to everything they do, it's like taking Parcell out of our side right now.

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Quote: PrinterThe "Can Cas still win the GF without Gale then?'"


Obviously they can, but it's less likely. Fortunately Roberts is playing the best rugby of his time here at the moment.

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While they would rather have Gale available, if he isn't they'll do what all the best coached sides do - use it as additional motivation and crack on without him.

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实事求是!:



The problem is our style of attack has both been an advantage and disadvantage over the years.

The improvised style, with some of the players we've had has been difficult to read, which has allowed us to score seemingly random off the cuff tries to win grand finals.

We still have some that can pull it off, but not as well.

Wigan to win the gf for me.

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Quote: tvoc "While they would rather have Gale available, if he isn't they'll do what all the best coached sides do - use it as additional motivation and crack on without him.'"


Correct. We might use flooded changing rooms as an excuse if we don't win the GF though...

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Quote: tigertot "Correct. We might use flooded changing rooms as an excuse if we don't win the GF though...'"

not winning the GF because of flooded changing rooms would have been fine for us , but it was a case of almost getting relegated. Of course you had a perfectly legitimate excuse for getting relegated Wigan cheating the cap by signing a player oh and your playing them next too

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Whilst I'm sure someone will reply saying we won't even make the GF so doesn't matter, which ends each set of fans are in at Old Trafford have already been decided.

Winner of Cas' SF are in the Stretford End
Winner of Leeds' SF are in the East Stand

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